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When you think a large group proposing something is collectively insane, it usually means you simply don't understand their argument. Surely, you know that win
by brabel 4y ago
When you think a large group proposing something is collectively insane, it usually means you simply don't understand their argument.
Surely, you know that wind power has had a lot of trouble expanding in Sweden due to huge opposition from every community against building wind turbines on their land. Everyone likes the idea of wind power until they try to build a huge turbine on their backyard.
Sun power, in Sweden, in winter, is clearly not going to cut it... even in the southern areas that still get a little bit of sun in winter, you don't get nearly enough power.
Hydropower is great and Sweden produces lots of it, but again, highly unlikely it can build new damns with the current regulations.
The only options left seem to be coal and nuclear. I hope you don't propose to just use coal.
Nuclear power, while expensive to build, is reliable and plenty. No one proposing that it should be one of the options for countries like Sweden is insane.
- Gwypaas 4y agoSweden has about the best options possible for a renewable powered grid. 40-50% of the electricity comes from hydro currently, simply transition that to be less baseload and more dispatchable, and Sweden now has days of storage. Couple that with off-shore wind in one of the windiest places on earth[1] together with solar during the summer wind lulls and you have all you need. This is why storage is not being built in Sweden, energy is simply too abundant and cheap. [1]: https://globalwindatlas.info/en https://globalwindatlas.info/en
- _0w8t 4y agoWe have a large scale war in Europe now with Russia threatening with nukes. We have attacks by unknown actor that destroyed gas pipelines. From this one can see how the idea that somebody will bomb out a nuclear power station somewhere in Europe gets non-trivial probability. So nuclear power really cannot be safe when this planet allows crazy guys to gain enough power. As for coal then consider that an electric car that uses electricity from a modern coal plant with over 40% efficiency generates less CO2 than a gasoline or diesel car. So rather than building nuclear power, the states should invest to upgrade older coal power plants from their 30-35% efficiency to 40-45% and quickly phase out petrol cars while expanding on renewables.
- brabel 4y ago> So nuclear power really cannot be safe when this planet allows crazy guys to gain enough power. This is an argument that ignores reality completely. How many attacks have there been against nuclear power plants by crazy guys even when we've had nuclear power throughout some of the most dangerous periods in history, including the Cold War and the current Ukrainian conflict?