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Talk to a European about that evil addiction to fossil fuel this winter.
by EricE 4y ago
Talk to a European about that evil addiction to fossil fuel this winter.
- jagger27 4y agoAre you European?
- Filligree 4y agoHi, I'm a European. We should have switched to nuclear decades ago.
- 8bitsrule 4y agoI bet they all know that none of them are among the biggest carbon-burners.
- TulliusCicero 4y agoI mean yeah, using gas to heat homes is dumb. Electrically powered heat pumps seem like the way to go.
- vixen99 4y agoMaybe in your part of the world. But grant me that it would be dumb to pay twice as much for electricity as for gas to heat my home to the same temperature which is the case. Heat pumps? For huge numbers of poor people across the world this a Marie Antoinette-esque gesture. I'm aware that there's no evidence she ever said words to the effect 'let them eat cakes' (people had no bread) but we all understand the metaphor. Let's not forget that much of the cost of electricity is down to the massive costs involved in its distribution.
- TulliusCicero 4y ago> Heat pumps? For huge numbers of poor people across the world this a Marie Antoinette-esque gesture. We were specifically talking about Europe. And there, lots of people even in relatively wealthy countries like Germany still use gas for heating. The government could definitely be encouraging/subsidizing the use of heat pumps instead. Obviously the idea is for transitioning where it's economically feasible, not demanding that poor people freeze to death, jesus christ.
- pas 4y agorunning gas pipes isn't free either. and the current price is not the total cost, which should include externalities like this. (yes, electricity generation currently is also mostly a GHG emitting travesty, but not fundamentally, like nat.gas.)
- pxmpxm 4y agoCost of resistive heating is around 2-5x the amount you'd pay for nat gas equivalent. Probably not that dumb, unless your actually point is that poor people just need to be cold for climate change.
- jagger27 4y agoThat’s precisely why the post you replied to said heat pumps, not resistive heating.