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I have a hard time understanding the target market for this. If you are so paranoid about your security and anonymity, why would you take promises made by a th

I have a hard time understanding the target market for this. If you are so paranoid about your security and anonymity, why would you take promises made by a third party at face value? Why would you trust anyone or anything with an ounce of your identity?

tgsovlerkhgsel 4y ago
Most places require payment, which is hard to do anonymously. Here, you don't have to take many promises at face value. You do have to assume that everything you do on that server is monitored if you don't trust it, but you can connect to it via Tor and/or a VPN.
surfsvammel 4y ago
I might use this just for convenience if I need to test something away from my home network.
- nix23 4y ago
  Exactly, if i want to test my pf firewall with "triggers" then this is one way, test my IDS etc, and with installed Kali everything is possible ;) just perfect! Big Thanks to the Creators!!
seba_dos1 4y ago
This is a cute toy for hackers, not something that provides "security and anonymity".
- kxrm 4y ago
  Agreed, I am not sure I understand the "how can you expect this to be secure" argument. I paid nothing, and it's sometimes fun to have a thing to play with that someone created. I am not using this to proxy a hack into Bank of America, nor am I storing my 20 page manifesto. If you do such a thing through here, you deserve whatever happens to you.
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p4bl0 4y ago
I can totally see the market for this. Imagine being a young person (let's say between 10 and 17), you read 2600 or something like it, you cannot pay for a server, you do not have your own Linux because the only family computer is running Windows and you're not an administrator on it. This is free and full of wonderful tools to try and explore.
- MontyCarloHall 4y ago
  Seems like this situation would have been common 25 years ago, but even poor families today have more than one computer at home. Indeed, every family member probably owns a smartphone, which is way more powerful than the “family computers” of decades past, and a quite capable Linux box if rooted and paired with a Bluetooth keyboard. If you’re a burgeoning hardware hacker, a Raspberry Pi is a few tens of dollars and a more than capable machine for that purpose.
  - withinboredom 4y ago
    A pi is not simply “a few tens of dollars” as you also need to buy a power supply, monitor/tv, keyboard, mouse, etc
    - MontyCarloHall 4y ago
      Those can also be had for tens of dollars. But my general point was not about the Pi; it was that even poor teens likely already have access to their own Linux-capable machine.
      - withinboredom 4y ago
        At that point, you’ve spent well over a hundred bucks on a very basic machine, esp once factoring in shipping. A decent Chromebook with Linux support can be had for about 250-300.
  - wongarsu 4y ago
    For a teenager in a poor family, spending $60 on an Orange Pi (good luck finding a Raspberry Pi for cheaper) with power supply and keyboard is a substantial investment (and that assumes you can get an old monitor for free from somewhere, your family PC is likely a $300 laptop after all) SSHing into a VPS from the family computer is definitely a lower barrier to entry. You can get dirt-cheap VPS for $3/month, but this free offer is even cheaper and comes without the hassle of payment methods (no explaining to your parents why you need to use their credit card for this).
imhoguy 4y ago
`nmap` or pentesting from dedicated hosting or your home fiber may lead to permban from your service provider. Here you can experiment without much consequences.

tgsovlerkhgsel 4y ago

Most places require payment, which is hard to do anonymously. Here, you don't have to take many promises at face value. You do have to assume that everything you do on that server is monitored if you don't trust it, but you can connect to it via Tor and/or a VPN.

surfsvammel 4y ago

I might use this just for convenience if I need to test something away from my home network.

nix23 4y ago
Exactly, if i want to test my pf firewall with "triggers" then this is one way, test my IDS etc, and with installed Kali everything is possible ;) just perfect! Big Thanks to the Creators!!

seba_dos1 4y ago

This is a cute toy for hackers, not something that provides "security and anonymity".

kxrm 4y ago
Agreed, I am not sure I understand the "how can you expect this to be secure" argument. I paid nothing, and it's sometimes fun to have a thing to play with that someone created. I am not using this to proxy a hack into Bank of America, nor am I storing my 20 page manifesto. If you do such a thing through here, you deserve whatever happens to you.

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p4bl0 4y ago

I can totally see the market for this. Imagine being a young person (let's say between 10 and 17), you read 2600 or something like it, you cannot pay for a server, you do not have your own Linux because the only family computer is running Windows and you're not an administrator on it. This is free and full of wonderful tools to try and explore.

MontyCarloHall 4y ago
Seems like this situation would have been common 25 years ago, but even poor families today have more than one computer at home. Indeed, every family member probably owns a smartphone, which is way more powerful than the “family computers” of decades past, and a quite capable Linux box if rooted and paired with a Bluetooth keyboard. If you’re a burgeoning hardware hacker, a Raspberry Pi is a few tens of dollars and a more than capable machine for that purpose.
- withinboredom 4y ago
  A pi is not simply “a few tens of dollars” as you also need to buy a power supply, monitor/tv, keyboard, mouse, etc
  - MontyCarloHall 4y ago
    Those can also be had for tens of dollars. But my general point was not about the Pi; it was that even poor teens likely already have access to their own Linux-capable machine.
    - withinboredom 4y ago
      At that point, you’ve spent well over a hundred bucks on a very basic machine, esp once factoring in shipping. A decent Chromebook with Linux support can be had for about 250-300.
- wongarsu 4y ago
  For a teenager in a poor family, spending $60 on an Orange Pi (good luck finding a Raspberry Pi for cheaper) with power supply and keyboard is a substantial investment (and that assumes you can get an old monitor for free from somewhere, your family PC is likely a $300 laptop after all) SSHing into a VPS from the family computer is definitely a lower barrier to entry. You can get dirt-cheap VPS for $3/month, but this free offer is even cheaper and comes without the hassle of payment methods (no explaining to your parents why you need to use their credit card for this).

imhoguy 4y ago

`nmap` or pentesting from dedicated hosting or your home fiber may lead to permban from your service provider. Here you can experiment without much consequences.