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I got excited for a moment reading the title thinking it was referring to (disposable) DNS Root Servers, since that is the only context in which I have heard ab

I got excited for a moment reading the title thinking it was referring to (disposable) DNS Root Servers, since that is the only context in which I have heard about “root servers” before.

kiwijamo 4y ago
That was my thought too. I wondered why one would need disposable DNS Root Servers!
khanhquole 4y ago
Yeah, that's what I thought too
dspillett 4y ago
I've seen the term used to mean dedicated servers or VMs, by European hosting companies. Possibly all German companies though that might not be a solid memory, but it does seem quite localised. I assume it is to differentiate between hosted servers where you have an account, multiple accounts, or a reseller account, but not full admin (root level) access. Always stuck me as a clunky term, but it was where my head went first on reading the title here (then I thought DNS servers, but that did not compute so the first thought "won").
silisili 4y ago
Same. I'm guessing they're German, that's the only other times I've seen the term 'root server' used this way.
- justsomehnguy 4y ago
  > Since 1995 we have had 3 of our members arrested (0 convicted), we have had visits by the BKA (Germany’s FBI) and BND (Germany’s NSA), we were blackmailed by the British GCHQ and harassed and intimidated by many others
- antonvs 4y ago
  I didn’t realize that was a German thing - anyone who’s done much renting of bare metal servers is likely to have encountered the term, but that seems to be because some of the biggest global providers of those services are German, like Hetzner and 1&1/Ionos.
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salmo 4y ago
A “root server” was a pre-cloud term for a rented server you had root on vs a mortal user account. The latter was typically for hosting a canned LAMP. Basically your own VM or physical instead of a user on a shared machine or a limited-use VM. There’s a bunch of these comments. What would a disposable root DNS server mean? Stand up a DNS server and just claim authority for .? You could do that here fine I imagine. You have root. Until you log out, of course. If you can install stuff and listen on 53, you could make your own private DNS tree anywhere. Now, managing delegations will get weird if you want to delegate outside of what you manage. I’m seeing a spiderweb of stub zones.

I got excited for a moment reading the title thinking it was referring to (disposable) DNS Root Servers, since that is the only context in which I have heard about “root servers” before.

kiwijamo 4y ago

That was my thought too. I wondered why one would need disposable DNS Root Servers!

khanhquole 4y ago

Yeah, that's what I thought too

dspillett 4y ago

I've seen the term used to mean dedicated servers or VMs, by European hosting companies. Possibly all German companies though that might not be a solid memory, but it does seem quite localised. I assume it is to differentiate between hosted servers where you have an account, multiple accounts, or a reseller account, but not full admin (root level) access. Always stuck me as a clunky term, but it was where my head went first on reading the title here (then I thought DNS servers, but that did not compute so the first thought "won").

silisili 4y ago

Same. I'm guessing they're German, that's the only other times I've seen the term 'root server' used this way.

justsomehnguy 4y ago
> Since 1995 we have had 3 of our members arrested (0 convicted), we have had visits by the BKA (Germany’s FBI) and BND (Germany’s NSA), we were blackmailed by the British GCHQ and harassed and intimidated by many others
antonvs 4y ago
I didn’t realize that was a German thing - anyone who’s done much renting of bare metal servers is likely to have encountered the term, but that seems to be because some of the biggest global providers of those services are German, like Hetzner and 1&1/Ionos.

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salmo 4y ago

A “root server” was a pre-cloud term for a rented server you had root on vs a mortal user account. The latter was typically for hosting a canned LAMP. Basically your own VM or physical instead of a user on a shared machine or a limited-use VM. There’s a bunch of these comments. What would a disposable root DNS server mean? Stand up a DNS server and just claim authority for .? You could do that here fine I imagine. You have root. Until you log out, of course. If you can install stuff and listen on 53, you could make your own private DNS tree anywhere. Now, managing delegations will get weird if you want to delegate outside of what you manage. I’m seeing a spiderweb of stub zones.