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I mean is there any mystery here? It's China. China doesn't care about anything except for themselves. Hundreds of Chinese fishing boats set up just outside of

I mean is there any mystery here? It's China. China doesn't care about anything except for themselves. Hundreds of Chinese fishing boats set up just outside of international waters in South America and fished everything in the area and brought it back to China. It's like a sick game of Age of Empires but millions of people are affected.

artificial 4y ago
The fleet is big enough to be seen from space. Neat animation of some activity here [0] and AP story https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB6-bAF9B8A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB6-bAF9B8A
- baskethead 4y ago
  As far as I'm concerned the countries impacted by those fishing cities should quietly torpedo them. It's a crime against humanity and if China can't support their own population with food they create themselves, they should cull their own population, not selfishly create famine for other countries by overfishing everything they can get their hands on.
  - artificial 4y ago
    BTW here's a better presentation of some of the fleet, it's enraging. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/26/world/asia/china-fishing-south-america.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/26/world/asia/ch...
jandrewrogers 4y ago
This doesn't pass the sniff test. The US has the most capable and dominant naval presence on the planet and they use it. Nothing happens near their territorial waters without their permission and they see it coming long before it happens. The "ghost fleet" fishing incidents -- which are a real concern -- happen to countries with minimal maritime defenses. You can blame China for many things but this definitely isn't one of them. Episodic fishery collapses are a thing that occurs naturally aside from fishing activity, and the Alaskan fishery is one of the best managed in the world.
1270018080 4y ago
If your first thought is always "there is a grand conspiracy plotting against american interests" you need to come back to reality.

artificial 4y ago

The fleet is big enough to be seen from space. Neat animation of some activity here [0] and AP story https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB6-bAF9B8A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB6-bAF9B8A

baskethead 4y ago
As far as I'm concerned the countries impacted by those fishing cities should quietly torpedo them. It's a crime against humanity and if China can't support their own population with food they create themselves, they should cull their own population, not selfishly create famine for other countries by overfishing everything they can get their hands on.
- artificial 4y ago
  BTW here's a better presentation of some of the fleet, it's enraging. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/26/world/asia/china-fishing-south-america.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/26/world/asia/ch...

jandrewrogers 4y ago

This doesn't pass the sniff test. The US has the most capable and dominant naval presence on the planet and they use it. Nothing happens near their territorial waters without their permission and they see it coming long before it happens. The "ghost fleet" fishing incidents -- which are a real concern -- happen to countries with minimal maritime defenses. You can blame China for many things but this definitely isn't one of them. Episodic fishery collapses are a thing that occurs naturally aside from fishing activity, and the Alaskan fishery is one of the best managed in the world.

1270018080 4y ago

If your first thought is always "there is a grand conspiracy plotting against american interests" you need to come back to reality.