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That's a small part of their sins. The big part is relying on gas for heating. When speaking with germans I've found that they think of gas as "clean" which sou
by tpmx 4y ago
That's a small part of their sins. The big part is relying on gas for heating. When speaking with germans I've found that they think of gas as "clean" which sounds insane to me. Yeah, maybe locally, compared to coal, but it's their largest co2 emission source nevertheless.
- Isolus 4y agoI don't know anyone in germany who thinks gas is "clean". New buildings are built with heat pumps. They are considered clean if used with renewable energy. But it's difficult to use them in old buildings and gas is said to be to most cleanest heating technology based on fossil fuels.
- anonporridge 4y agoHeat pumps are amazing and a big step forward, but Germany's electricity is energized by natural gas peaker plants when there is not enough wind or solar generation operating. Even if every German building was using heat pumps, they would still be burning TONS of natural gas to keep the electricity flowing consistently, because they have no long term energy storage solution to pair with renewables, especially through the long, dark winters when the sun rarely shines.
- ncmncm 4y agoYou imagine there is no plan because you do not know about the plans. It would be stupid to build storage there is not renewable generating capacity to charge. When there is such capacity, they will then build out storage. In the meantime the correct place to spend is on generation. Which, in fact, is what they are doing.
- tpmx 4y agoGermany literally got the European Commission to label gas burning as "green energy" (!). https://www.euractiv.com/section/energy-environment/news/germany-takes-firm-pro-gas-stance-in-green-taxonomy-feedback-to-eu/ https://www.euractiv.com/section/energy-environment/news/ger... https://www.dw.com/en/european-commission-declares-nuclear-and-gas-to-be-green/a-60614990 https://www.dw.com/en/european-commission-declares-nuclear-a... (Does that count as gaslighting? Sorry.)
- Isolus 4y agoThe cited article says "a bridge for a limited transition period" and not "green energy". So no, they don't want to label it green energy, they only prefer it to other fossil fuels and nuclear but the goal is to phase out natural gas as well.
- tpmx 4y agoThe DW headline is "European Commission declares nuclear and gas to be green". Is the state-owned DW/ARD not a trustworthy news source?
- Isolus 4y agoThe article cites "gas and nuclear were labeled as "transitional" energy sources in the taxonomy". So the news itself is correct but the headline abbreviates this very badly.
- tormeh 4y agoIt’s “clean coal” all over again.