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You can get an RTX 3090 (MSRP $1499) for about $900-950 now. (In other words, the prices on these cards really should come down a bit.) So while the graphics

You can get an RTX 3090 (MSRP $1499) for about $900-950 now. (In other words, the prices on these cards really should come down a bit.) So while the graphics card formerly known as RTX 4080 12GB might perform about the same as the RTX 3090, it's no better value. The issue isn't the pricing, even though that's an issue. The issue is what looks like an intentional attempt to confuse consumers by selling two products with roughly the same name, but one of them has 25% greater performance. Some consumers may think "I'm coming from a 6GB card, 12GB is plenty, I don't need to pay more for the 16GB one, I'll get almost the same performance" without knowing the technical details. Ideally they'll still read/watch reviews and get the best product for their budget, but that doesn't excuse misleading names.

icambron 4y ago
This was me. I was too busy to read/watch anything, 12gb seemed right in the middle of the range, and I blindly pulled the trigger. Later found out I wasn’t quite buying what I thought I was. It’s shitty naming and I’m glad they’re fixing it.
- D13Fd 4y ago
  > This was me. I was too busy to read/watch anything, 12gb seemed right in the middle of the range, and I blindly pulled the trigger. Later found out I wasn’t quite buying what I thought I was. It’s shitty naming and I’m glad they’re fixing it. Are you talking about last gen? AFAIK you can’t actually buy the 4080 12gb yet, right?
  - neogodless 4y ago
    There have been some pre-orders available for the RTX 4080, though none seem open currently.
izacus 4y ago
> So while the graphics card formerly known as RTX 4080 12GB might perform about the same as the RTX 3090, it's no better value. So you'd get the same price, just newer chip, newer encoder and DLSS3 support and all that at lower MSRP than what 3090 cost when it was new and launched? That sounds like same value to me... or even a slightly better deal.
- philliphaydon 4y ago
  DLSS3 looks pretty bad so far so that’s definitely not worth it.
- Eisenstein 4y ago
  It is a great deal for 3 years ago, but tech is supposed to get cheaper as time progresses. No one says that a 42" 1080p LCD HDTV for $300 is a great deal because they were $800 8 years ago. It is a decent price but for $800 you can 60" 4K display with HDR. (prices made up, I have no idea how much TVs cost right now)
- neogodless 4y ago
  If you only compare those two cards it might be a better deal, but there's a spectrum of cards, including soon to be released next generation from competitors. At any rate, $900 is too much! Of course different buyers have different budgets and tolerance for rapidly increased pricing. Two years ago I increased my $220 budget for GPUs to $300. Maybe next year I'll go as high as $350.
  - izacus 4y ago
    If paying for this performance is too much, what's stopping you from buying the cheaper cards with 350$ budget? There will be cards in that budget, they just won't be faster than the 1500$ card from last year.
    - neogodless 4y ago
      What is your point exactly? I said the main issue was naming of products designed to confuse consumers, not my anecdotal preference for price point? But additionally, we'll see if the market at large bears such price inflation.

icambron 4y ago

This was me. I was too busy to read/watch anything, 12gb seemed right in the middle of the range, and I blindly pulled the trigger. Later found out I wasn’t quite buying what I thought I was. It’s shitty naming and I’m glad they’re fixing it.

D13Fd 4y ago
> This was me. I was too busy to read/watch anything, 12gb seemed right in the middle of the range, and I blindly pulled the trigger. Later found out I wasn’t quite buying what I thought I was. It’s shitty naming and I’m glad they’re fixing it. Are you talking about last gen? AFAIK you can’t actually buy the 4080 12gb yet, right?
- neogodless 4y ago
  There have been some pre-orders available for the RTX 4080, though none seem open currently.

izacus 4y ago

> So while the graphics card formerly known as RTX 4080 12GB might perform about the same as the RTX 3090, it's no better value. So you'd get the same price, just newer chip, newer encoder and DLSS3 support and all that at lower MSRP than what 3090 cost when it was new and launched? That sounds like same value to me... or even a slightly better deal.

philliphaydon 4y ago
DLSS3 looks pretty bad so far so that’s definitely not worth it.
Eisenstein 4y ago
It is a great deal for 3 years ago, but tech is supposed to get cheaper as time progresses. No one says that a 42" 1080p LCD HDTV for $300 is a great deal because they were $800 8 years ago. It is a decent price but for $800 you can 60" 4K display with HDR. (prices made up, I have no idea how much TVs cost right now)
neogodless 4y ago
If you only compare those two cards it might be a better deal, but there's a spectrum of cards, including soon to be released next generation from competitors. At any rate, $900 is too much! Of course different buyers have different budgets and tolerance for rapidly increased pricing. Two years ago I increased my $220 budget for GPUs to $300. Maybe next year I'll go as high as $350.
- izacus 4y ago
  If paying for this performance is too much, what's stopping you from buying the cheaper cards with 350$ budget? There will be cards in that budget, they just won't be faster than the 1500$ card from last year.
  - neogodless 4y ago
    What is your point exactly? I said the main issue was naming of products designed to confuse consumers, not my anecdotal preference for price point? But additionally, we'll see if the market at large bears such price inflation.