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They don't want the US/Israel to plot a 2nd coup [1], just like with China/Russia they want to split Turkey since it's too big Erdogan knows that very well, he

They don't want the US/Israel to plot a 2nd coup [1], just like with China/Russia they want to split Turkey since it's too big Erdogan knows that very well, hence he tried to play double face with NATO/Russia (BRICS) [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Turkish_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat_attempt#Allegations_of_CIA_involvement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Turkish_coup_d%27%C3%A9ta...

dmix 4y ago
Foreign boogiemen tend to be behind a lot of bad laws. The coup failed without having to jail people for arbitrary wrongthink and I doubt this will be useful for anything but crushing domestic opposition and silencing whistleblowers.
- Kukumber 4y ago
  I don't care what's good what's bad, i'm just making an observation and i share my knowledge The "one sided" mindset in the west is tasteless and boring
  - dmix 4y ago
    One side of what?
    - Kukumber 4y ago
      - dmix 4y ago
        Nothing is lamer than telling someone to read a book in order to understand their internet comment (let alone a religious text). But obviously you’re just dodging, stating an opinionated piece of information while pretending you’re just stating facts. Just be honest and say what you mean. I have a feeling it can be reduced to the usual “US is also bad” misdirection which is a favourite of Turkey (and China and Iran and Venezuela and Russia) whenever they do anything abusive. That’s never an excuse.
        Kukumber 4y ago
        AnimalMuppet 4y ago
        So you're factual, but dmix is driven by emotion? And not just dmix, but this site in general? But you can't bother to share the facts, other than "go read the talmud"? (In a discussion about the Turkish Coup???) If you want anyone here to take you seriously, you have to do better than that. We don't listen to arguments like that, and it's not because we're driven by emotion. It's because your argument is incoherent. Your last post here also is coming very close to personal attack, which is against the site rules.
        Kukumber 4y ago
        > Your last post here also is coming very close to personal attack, which is against the site rules. That wasn't my intention, i apologize if that's how you felt about my last comment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Ottoman_Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Ott... https://twitter.com/netanyahu/status/1021717143967227904 https://twitter.com/netanyahu/status/1021717143967227904 https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/ukraine-zelensky-says-israel-model-post-russia-war https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/ukraine-zelensky-says-isr... I encourage to read more about history to get educated about the matter (no offense), because there appear to be some misunderstanding from your part My opinion on the conflicts in the Middle East doesn't matter, and my opinion on modern Ottoman's and Greater Israel ambitions also doesn't matter if that's what you expect me to provide I react to a news article posted on this website, and i provide data and context to the people reading it, so i can help spread knowledge about the matter, that's it If you need more context, or you still misunderstand my comments, please let me know wich ones exactly, with quotes so i can hopefully help clear any misunderstanding > So you're factual, but dmix is driven by emotion? And not just dmix, but this site in general? But you can't bother to share the facts, other than "go read the talmud"? (In a discussion about the Turkish Coup???) If you read the talmud, that'll help you have a better understanding of the situation with Iran, Turkey and Russia
      - dang 4y ago
        Could you please stop posting unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments? You've been doing it repeatedly, unfortunately. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
        Kukumber 4y ago
        I apologies, I'll be more careful in the future
        dang 4y ago
        Appreciated!
    - Kukumber 4y ago
      Of history, about the current events in the Middle East If you read the talmud, that'll help you have a better understanding of the current situation with Iran, Turkey and Russia I can't make a summary of that book since it's way too big; quoting it could lead to misinterpretations so it's better if you just read it by yourself And if you have more free time, you should read about the French Revolution and how Europe came to be

dmix 4y ago

Foreign boogiemen tend to be behind a lot of bad laws. The coup failed without having to jail people for arbitrary wrongthink and I doubt this will be useful for anything but crushing domestic opposition and silencing whistleblowers.

Kukumber 4y ago
I don't care what's good what's bad, i'm just making an observation and i share my knowledge The "one sided" mindset in the west is tasteless and boring
- dmix 4y ago
  One side of what?
  - Kukumber 4y ago
    - dmix 4y ago
      Nothing is lamer than telling someone to read a book in order to understand their internet comment (let alone a religious text). But obviously you’re just dodging, stating an opinionated piece of information while pretending you’re just stating facts. Just be honest and say what you mean. I have a feeling it can be reduced to the usual “US is also bad” misdirection which is a favourite of Turkey (and China and Iran and Venezuela and Russia) whenever they do anything abusive. That’s never an excuse.
      - Kukumber 4y ago
        AnimalMuppet 4y ago
        So you're factual, but dmix is driven by emotion? And not just dmix, but this site in general? But you can't bother to share the facts, other than "go read the talmud"? (In a discussion about the Turkish Coup???) If you want anyone here to take you seriously, you have to do better than that. We don't listen to arguments like that, and it's not because we're driven by emotion. It's because your argument is incoherent. Your last post here also is coming very close to personal attack, which is against the site rules.
        Kukumber 4y ago
        > Your last post here also is coming very close to personal attack, which is against the site rules. That wasn't my intention, i apologize if that's how you felt about my last comment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Ottoman_Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Ott... https://twitter.com/netanyahu/status/1021717143967227904 https://twitter.com/netanyahu/status/1021717143967227904 https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/ukraine-zelensky-says-israel-model-post-russia-war https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/ukraine-zelensky-says-isr... I encourage to read more about history to get educated about the matter (no offense), because there appear to be some misunderstanding from your part My opinion on the conflicts in the Middle East doesn't matter, and my opinion on modern Ottoman's and Greater Israel ambitions also doesn't matter if that's what you expect me to provide I react to a news article posted on this website, and i provide data and context to the people reading it, so i can help spread knowledge about the matter, that's it If you need more context, or you still misunderstand my comments, please let me know wich ones exactly, with quotes so i can hopefully help clear any misunderstanding > So you're factual, but dmix is driven by emotion? And not just dmix, but this site in general? But you can't bother to share the facts, other than "go read the talmud"? (In a discussion about the Turkish Coup???) If you read the talmud, that'll help you have a better understanding of the situation with Iran, Turkey and Russia
    - dang 4y ago
      Could you please stop posting unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments? You've been doing it repeatedly, unfortunately. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
      - Kukumber 4y ago
        I apologies, I'll be more careful in the future
        dang 4y ago
        Appreciated!
  - Kukumber 4y ago
    Of history, about the current events in the Middle East If you read the talmud, that'll help you have a better understanding of the current situation with Iran, Turkey and Russia I can't make a summary of that book since it's way too big; quoting it could lead to misinterpretations so it's better if you just read it by yourself And if you have more free time, you should read about the French Revolution and how Europe came to be