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Yeah I can’t agree with you at all. Without setting up your own NAT Gateway on EC2 on a t2.micro instance (or something cheap like that), it runs you about $30.

by dimgl 4y ago

Yeah I can’t agree with you at all. Without setting up your own NAT Gateway on EC2 on a t2.micro instance (or something cheap like that), it runs you about $30. This isn’t even accounting for database costs, usage costs, development costs, etc. So right away that “I can’t believe they even charge my CC for $0.02” is real suspect. Do you have a completely empty AWS account? We haven’t even spoken about dev experience yet.

CharlieDigital 4y ago
> Without setting up your own NAT Gateway on EC2 on a t2.micro instance... The problem is that you're using EC2 instead of AWS App Runner, Google Cloud Run, or Azure Container Apps. > We haven’t even spoken about dev experience yet. I'd strongly recommend that you give Google Cloud Run a try. You can go from empty codebase to running, on demand serverlesss runtime via GitHub with only a Dockerfile. I can build an app from scratch and have it running in Google Cloud in probably under 3 minutes with no special CLI knowledge or build. Here's a sample Dockerfile I'd need to get a dotnet app into Google Cloud Run: # The build environment FROM mcr.microsoft.com/dotnet/sdk:6.0-alpine as build WORKDIR /app COPY . . RUN dotnet restore RUN dotnet publish -o /app/published-app --configuration Release # The runtime FROM mcr.microsoft.com/dotnet/aspnet:6.0-alpine as runtime WORKDIR /app COPY --from=build /app/published-app /app # The value production is used in Program.cs to set the URL for Google Cloud Run ENV ASPNETCORE_ENVIRONMENT=production ENV IS_GOOGLE_CLOUD=true ENTRYPOINT [ "dotnet", "/app/my-app.dll" ] Every other aspect of the code remains unchanged. GCR will pull the code from GitHub, build the container, and operationalize it. https://github.com/CharlieDigital/dn6-mongo-react-valtio https://github.com/CharlieDigital/dn6-mongo-react-valtio
- 0xEFF 4y ago
  Where do you store your secrets? Persistent data? How do you handle authentication and authorization when using cloud run only?
  - CharlieDigital 4y ago
    Authentication and authorization: I hand it off to Firebase identity management. But you can also just issue your own JWTs. You can run full applications in GCR like KeyCloak or IdentityServer. But the Firebase identity solution is really good. Example here: https://github.com/CharlieDigital/dn6-firebase https://github.com/CharlieDigital/dn6-firebase Persistent data: Firestore (or Supabase, Planetscale, or CockroachDB if you want relational). On other platforms, I've used Azure CosmosDB which has a pay-as-you-go model which is practically free for hobby/POC use cases. Secrets: depends on how secret it is; actual keys go into secrets manager in GCP which integrates with Cloud Run. Otherwise, you can configure it as an environment variable.

by dimgl 4y ago

CharlieDigital 4y ago

> Without setting up your own NAT Gateway on EC2 on a t2.micro instance... The problem is that you're using EC2 instead of AWS App Runner, Google Cloud Run, or Azure Container Apps. > We haven’t even spoken about dev experience yet. I'd strongly recommend that you give Google Cloud Run a try. You can go from empty codebase to running, on demand serverlesss runtime via GitHub with only a Dockerfile. I can build an app from scratch and have it running in Google Cloud in probably under 3 minutes with no special CLI knowledge or build. Here's a sample Dockerfile I'd need to get a dotnet app into Google Cloud Run: # The build environment FROM mcr.microsoft.com/dotnet/sdk:6.0-alpine as build WORKDIR /app COPY . . RUN dotnet restore RUN dotnet publish -o /app/published-app --configuration Release # The runtime FROM mcr.microsoft.com/dotnet/aspnet:6.0-alpine as runtime WORKDIR /app COPY --from=build /app/published-app /app # The value production is used in Program.cs to set the URL for Google Cloud Run ENV ASPNETCORE_ENVIRONMENT=production ENV IS_GOOGLE_CLOUD=true ENTRYPOINT [ "dotnet", "/app/my-app.dll" ] Every other aspect of the code remains unchanged. GCR will pull the code from GitHub, build the container, and operationalize it. https://github.com/CharlieDigital/dn6-mongo-react-valtio https://github.com/CharlieDigital/dn6-mongo-react-valtio

0xEFF 4y ago
Where do you store your secrets? Persistent data? How do you handle authentication and authorization when using cloud run only?
- CharlieDigital 4y ago
  Authentication and authorization: I hand it off to Firebase identity management. But you can also just issue your own JWTs. You can run full applications in GCR like KeyCloak or IdentityServer. But the Firebase identity solution is really good. Example here: https://github.com/CharlieDigital/dn6-firebase https://github.com/CharlieDigital/dn6-firebase Persistent data: Firestore (or Supabase, Planetscale, or CockroachDB if you want relational). On other platforms, I've used Azure CosmosDB which has a pay-as-you-go model which is practically free for hobby/POC use cases. Secrets: depends on how secret it is; actual keys go into secrets manager in GCP which integrates with Cloud Run. Otherwise, you can configure it as an environment variable.