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If you buy the theory that Bytedance is a covert operation by the Chinese government, then this fits the narrative. Use the TikTok brand to attract top global

If you buy the theory that Bytedance is a covert operation by the Chinese government, then this fits the narrative. Use the TikTok brand to attract top global talent and perform research in areas of general interest for government agencies. They only need to build a backdoor for Chinese officials to access the research data. Sounds far fetched but I believe this is well within the realm of possibilities.

causi 4y ago
at some levels a covert operation by the Chinese government It isn't covert. They only need to build a backdoor for Chinese officials to access the research data. If it's located in China the Chinese government can access it, period. It's not secret or a conspiracy; it's how business is done.
freewinz 4y ago
Please stop the attitude of pandering to low-IQ redditors when proposing plausible theories with self-deprecation and incorrect use of the word "conspiracy"
- whoisjuan 4y ago
  This is not pandering. I don’t have any information to categorically claim any of this, so why would I say it in any other way? I’m self-deprecating because I’m on the fence on whether or not this is real or just some fictional plot I want to believe. Chill, alright?
kube-system 4y ago
Chinese law requires companies to make provisions for representing the interests of the CCP within companies of significant size. This isn’t a conspiracy, it’s routine business law. There is no need for the CCP to conspire to control businesses. They have ultimate control of business law. The idea that companies and governments are independent things is a pretty capitalist perspective. There’s a wide range of other perspectives on this issue.
- trasz 4y ago
  It works the same way in capitalist countries - except it’s enforced with money and patriotism instead of democratically introduced, officially existing rules.
  - kube-system 4y ago
    They’re “the same” only in a reductionist sort of way that isn’t very conducive to productive conversation. Varying economic and legal systems are different in the specifics about how they work, even if self interested individuals exist everywhere.
    - trasz 4y ago
      They are the same in every practical sense, in particular in their end results. The differences you mention are an implementation detail - in some countries you have the rules written down as law, in others you got shady three letter agencies, kangaroo "FISA courts", and In-Q-Tel.
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      - kube-system 4y ago
        The end results are not the same. There are many observable differences between doing business in China and in the US or other western market democracies. For instance, executive action is regularly challenged in the US, and successfully so.
        trasz 4y ago
        >For instance, executive action is regularly challenged in the US, and successfully so. And? How's that different from China?
        kube-system 4y ago

causi 4y ago

at some levels a covert operation by the Chinese government It isn't covert. They only need to build a backdoor for Chinese officials to access the research data. If it's located in China the Chinese government can access it, period. It's not secret or a conspiracy; it's how business is done.

freewinz 4y ago

Please stop the attitude of pandering to low-IQ redditors when proposing plausible theories with self-deprecation and incorrect use of the word "conspiracy"

whoisjuan 4y ago
This is not pandering. I don’t have any information to categorically claim any of this, so why would I say it in any other way? I’m self-deprecating because I’m on the fence on whether or not this is real or just some fictional plot I want to believe. Chill, alright?

kube-system 4y ago

Chinese law requires companies to make provisions for representing the interests of the CCP within companies of significant size. This isn’t a conspiracy, it’s routine business law. There is no need for the CCP to conspire to control businesses. They have ultimate control of business law. The idea that companies and governments are independent things is a pretty capitalist perspective. There’s a wide range of other perspectives on this issue.

trasz 4y ago
It works the same way in capitalist countries - except it’s enforced with money and patriotism instead of democratically introduced, officially existing rules.
- kube-system 4y ago
  They’re “the same” only in a reductionist sort of way that isn’t very conducive to productive conversation. Varying economic and legal systems are different in the specifics about how they work, even if self interested individuals exist everywhere.
  - trasz 4y ago
    They are the same in every practical sense, in particular in their end results. The differences you mention are an implementation detail - in some countries you have the rules written down as law, in others you got shady three letter agencies, kangaroo "FISA courts", and In-Q-Tel.
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    - kube-system 4y ago
      The end results are not the same. There are many observable differences between doing business in China and in the US or other western market democracies. For instance, executive action is regularly challenged in the US, and successfully so.
      - trasz 4y ago
        >For instance, executive action is regularly challenged in the US, and successfully so. And? How's that different from China?
        kube-system 4y ago