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"My family is increasingly paranoid after the Pfizer executive said they never tested whether their vaccine prevented transmission" Can you explain? I have no

"My family is increasingly paranoid after the Pfizer executive said they never tested whether their vaccine prevented transmission" Can you explain? I have no idea why this is something you or your family would be paranoid about.

gjsman-1000 4y ago
It’s more about how it is extremely counternarrative to how it was marketed and sold. If you had told someone, who had gotten the vaccine, that Pfizer did not know whether you could still pass the virus on to your unvaccinated grandmother, you would have been laughed at. But here we are.
- standardUser 4y ago
  Why would anyone laugh at that unless they themselves had a laughably simplistic concept of how the field of medicine works? As I recall, the details and limitations of the various vaccines were not hidden and no one was lied to.
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  - bilvar 4y ago
    What do you mean they were not lied to? Specifically by Pfizer or the US government? Because there are numerous instances where Biden and Fauci said that if you get the vaccine: - You won't get Covid. - You won't transmit Covid to anybody else. - Covid vaccine is / will be super effective against variants. None of those were true after-all. If you're talking about Pfizer fair enough, they didn't outright lie, they lied by omission - as I did not see them coming out to correct those misconceptions. They were more than happy with demand on the vaccine being inflated because of those very misconceptions and raking the profits in.
    - Izkata 4y ago
      > If you're talking about Pfizer fair enough, they didn't outright lie, they lied by omission - as I did not see them coming out to correct those misconceptions. While true, it's even weirder than that: their press release in 2020 was pretty explicit about the effectiveness only being about illness, and news articles at the time regularly mentioned infection/transmission effectiveness was unknown. It took a few months before the mainstream decided it does work on infection/transmission, and they did so without any new studies or evidence.
potatototoo99 4y ago
A lot of media and politicians spread that Covid vaccines prevented transmission. This was of course false, the studies had only measured "serious illness". He or his family would now take with a grain of salt anything politicians or the media say about any topic (as they should). Another example would be the initial calls against the use of face masks, and even claims that they'd even promote infection. On this post's topic, would what they did now be considered desinformation? What if the politial party in power changed, would they be be able to persecute the other party for desinformation? Crazy times.

gjsman-1000 4y ago

It’s more about how it is extremely counternarrative to how it was marketed and sold. If you had told someone, who had gotten the vaccine, that Pfizer did not know whether you could still pass the virus on to your unvaccinated grandmother, you would have been laughed at. But here we are.

standardUser 4y ago
Why would anyone laugh at that unless they themselves had a laughably simplistic concept of how the field of medicine works? As I recall, the details and limitations of the various vaccines were not hidden and no one was lied to.
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- bilvar 4y ago
  What do you mean they were not lied to? Specifically by Pfizer or the US government? Because there are numerous instances where Biden and Fauci said that if you get the vaccine: - You won't get Covid. - You won't transmit Covid to anybody else. - Covid vaccine is / will be super effective against variants. None of those were true after-all. If you're talking about Pfizer fair enough, they didn't outright lie, they lied by omission - as I did not see them coming out to correct those misconceptions. They were more than happy with demand on the vaccine being inflated because of those very misconceptions and raking the profits in.
  - Izkata 4y ago
    > If you're talking about Pfizer fair enough, they didn't outright lie, they lied by omission - as I did not see them coming out to correct those misconceptions. While true, it's even weirder than that: their press release in 2020 was pretty explicit about the effectiveness only being about illness, and news articles at the time regularly mentioned infection/transmission effectiveness was unknown. It took a few months before the mainstream decided it does work on infection/transmission, and they did so without any new studies or evidence.

potatototoo99 4y ago

A lot of media and politicians spread that Covid vaccines prevented transmission. This was of course false, the studies had only measured "serious illness". He or his family would now take with a grain of salt anything politicians or the media say about any topic (as they should). Another example would be the initial calls against the use of face masks, and even claims that they'd even promote infection. On this post's topic, would what they did now be considered desinformation? What if the politial party in power changed, would they be be able to persecute the other party for desinformation? Crazy times.