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On the one hand I get where Equifax is coming from. I’ve had coworkers before with multiple full-time jobs and only a very few can pull it off without it seriou
by twodave 4y ago
On the one hand I get where Equifax is coming from. I’ve had coworkers before with multiple full-time jobs and only a very few can pull it off without it seriously impacting their expected productivity. The answer to this in that specific case is firing I think because it’s just dishonest. Not only are you not putting in the time, you’re also not making an equivalent business impact.
The general answer is that people are doing this because they feel undervalued. Sure there are some who will try to bend or even break the rules always if they feel they can get away with it, but for those whose output is a multiplier above normal, why should they donate that productivity to an employer who won’t pay for it?
Equifax is a horrible company overall, and this kind of monitoring is wrong. Their reaction to the facts isn’t necessarily wrong, though.
- Zak 4y ago> The general answer is that people are doing this because they feel undervalued. Merely feeling undervalued isn't enough to induce most people to work two full-time jobs. That's a brutal time commitment even for someone who isn't working very hard at either. People usually do that because neither job pays well enough on its own.
- twodave 4y agoI mean, speak for yourself :D I guess I could take the same medicine.
- brightball 4y agoDepends on the job. There’s a growing trend of people getting remote jobs then just hanging out in Slack/Zoom (camera off, never talking) collecting a check til they get fired. In some cases they’ll outsource some work overseas.
- germinalphrase 4y agoHow many of these people can there possibly be? Are there really that many jobs with such low visibility, low expectations that someone can get away with Just Not Working for more than a few days before it’s obvious?
- brightball 4y agoYou know, I thought the same thing. Then I encountered 3 over the last month at 2 different companies I consult with. Stuff is weird right now.
- hallman76 4y agoThere's a subreddit devoted to the topic of working multiple jobs: https://www.reddit.com/r/overemployed/ https://www.reddit.com/r/overemployed/. It has 101k members.
- ferrumfist 4y agoFor software development, I feel like being "overemployed" would be relatively easy as a mid-level or senior developer. Job #1 is your 'mainstay' job with decent pay/benefits (but requires more concentration), Job #2 would be the 'side' job that you could fulfill your responsibilities with minimal effort. A full-stack dev with 7ish years of experience could easily create/maintain CRUD apps for a smaller company with minimal effort while focusing the rest of his efforts on a more challenging role at a larger company.
- germinalphrase 4y agoI’m aware. I just also happen to believe that a great majority of Reddit is cosplay and exaggeration.
- cainxinth 4y agoThe level of wrong we can ascribe to holding two jobs when you’re not allowed to is minute and individual. A giant, rent-seeking POS like EFX (who already has proven itself negligent in handling sensitive data) exploiting their data for purposes it’s not intended for is much more alarming and far reaching.
- twodave 4y agoI think we can agree on Equifax being a giant, rent-seeking POS--that's the whole point of their business, right? But I think if a more reputable company were doing this we wouldn't be so outraged about it. I'm all for taking a free opportunity to bash a bad actor like Equifax (that's the price of a poor reputation, after all), but I don't think I actually disagree with their reaction to the findings here.