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I read the book when I was still a right-libertarian, and I credit it with playing a significant part in pushing me left into Anarchism. Thus, I'd say I fall pr
by OkayPhysicist 4y ago
I read the book when I was still a right-libertarian, and I credit it with playing a significant part in pushing me left into Anarchism. Thus, I'd say I fall pretty firmly in the camp of "I have read the entirety of Atlas Shrugged and severely disagree with it".
And I have to disagree with the "not an academic treatise" take: the book is a statement of philosophy first, and a story in a distant second. Most character's actions serve to either portray the "right" behavior of the Objectivist Ubermenche, or act a strawman foil to the heroes of the story. Frankly, the most surprising thing is that Rand doesn't stick to easy slam-dunk wins against her strawman "collectivists": she portrays the kinds of monstrous actions that her philosophy encourages, and then celebrates them. Franscisco D'Antonia's bombing of his own mine when he inevitably lost the fight against labor, the reverse-Robin Hood character's outright theft for the benefit of those who really don't need it, heck, the bizarrely rapey sexual encounters between Dagny and Rearden are all portrayed in a unquestionably positive light, and that's probably why so few people who don't already agree with the underlying philosophy finish the book: it's seriously alienating to see evil unambiguously praised.
Atlas Shrugged does not simply "inspire" individualism: It demonizes anything less than overtly selfish behavior, to the point of praising characters for acting against their own interests simply out of spite towards those who fail to live up to the Ubermenche ideal. Contrast that with individualist anarchist writers like Max Stirner, who's philosophy follows something like "Liberation begins with the self, but we can work better together": The former is destructive, where even self-interest takes a back seat to the rejection of cooperation, whereas the latter truely puts self-interest first, acknowledging that cooperation often grants greater benefit to ourselves as well.
As a novel, it's low-effort, monotonous wish fulfillment accented by the occasional romance or absurd moment. As a philosophical statement, it's a lackluster re-framing of the least favorable parts of Nietzche with the overt "Woman only get into academia if they're sterile" sexism being replaced with a more subtle "Women should be more like men" form. The book has few redeeming qualities, and can only really be enjoyed by a reader who already agrees with the premise.
- kderbyma 4y agoI feel like you are completely missing the point of the protagonists self sacrifice..... you claim it is selfish to show the world that they are at an unhealthy level of entitlement and ignorance and that to continue with the status quo is to invite a future of degradation and despotism that would shield all innovation from seeing daylight. You claim that they are selfish in their acts but fa to acknowledge their reasons their outcomes or their resolve to not become serfs of the collectivists....it says do not be a slave just because you are good at something....it says stand up, realise your worth, don't cheapen yourself, but if people will not respect you and will not value your efforts with some compensation (whether that be recognition, money, respect, debt, etc) but some form of value should be given....the smallest people are not expected to give anything more than relative efforts ...
- OkayPhysicist 4y agoIf the characters were "self-sacrificing" in their actions, they were, by definition, acting against their own self interest, in conflict with every long-winded ideological monologue in the book. Skipping directly to the "fuck off into the mountains to pass gold around in their utopian rich person land" would have been more in their own interest. No, their actions were taken out of self-interested spite. It was not enough to leave society, they needed to harm it on the way out.
- raxxorraxor 4y agoYou forget that this basically was anarchism at the time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_egoism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_egoism
- OkayPhysicist 4y agoI already referenced Stirner, who is well placed in both the Egoist and Anarchist traditions. Ayn Rand, on the other hand, cannot be placed within the Anarchist tradition, as she is unabashedly pro-Capitalism. Like, not "a necessary evil" pro-Capitalism, "an unequivocal moral good" pro-Capitalism. And Capitalism, being defined as a hierarchy based on control of capital, is entirely mutually exclusive with Anarchism, the rejection of hierarchy.