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Here in Europe layoffs are more uncommon but I am having a very hard time finding open positions compared to just 3 years ago ( last time I was changing jobs ),

by yulaow 4y ago

Here in Europe layoffs are more uncommon but I am having a very hard time finding open positions compared to just 3 years ago ( last time I was changing jobs ), and the situation is getting worse and worse each week that passes. And for juniors is already far worse: I very rarely see job openings targeted to them anymore. It seems like everything is frozen.

radicalbyte 4y ago
There is a large backlash happening against blockchain right now in Europe, from your profile I would assume that that is the problem.
- yulaow 4y ago
  Actually it's the opposite. I am done with dapps and blockchain development and just looking for fullstack (preferring only backend when possible) typescript/golang positions. I am getting a good amount of recruiters contacting me for blockchain related positions but every single time I speak with them their projects are so ridiculously stupid I am flabbergasted that they got investors. "Normal web dev" recruiters? Just got 5 of them contacting me in the last 4 weeks and of those I contacted myself: most of them have ghosted me. Last time I was looking for a new job in 3 days I had like 30 recruiters already spamming my linkedin inmail Also I put myself in honeypot, talent.io and hired.com. Got like only one proposal... so thinking something was bad with my profile I contacted their "talent advisors" and each of them sort-of told me the profile was perfect but they were having an hard time getting job openings because of the "current market situation".
  - illusiveman 4y ago
    I used to have 2 requests a week on average on Hired. Now, my profile has expired twice without a single request. Definitely, something is wrong with that service. Guess fewer companies are using it. By contrast, it's odd the day I don't get a message on LinkedIn.
    - jmknoll 4y ago
      I've had good experiences with Hired in my current and previous job searches. While there are a couple of companies (the usual suspects) who use it to send out the same recruiter spam that they send elsewhere, I've mostly gotten targeted reach-outs for pretty solid roles. I'm actually starting a job next week that I found with them. LinkedIn, by comparison, is just a constant stream of unsolicited garbage.
    - cableshaft 4y ago
      I had 8 companies reach out to me via Hired.com when I put my profile on there in June/July 2021. One of those companies successfully hired me. They were also where I was getting the highest stated offer ranges (and got the highest offer). LinkedIn was a crapshoot and most of the stated offer ranges were lower, although I did get bombarded with recruiters via LinkedIn (30 reached out the day I flipped the switch, 18 the next day, then it started slowing down). But in general I had a good experience with Hired and plan to use them again next search.
  - kypro 4y ago
    I'm in the UK and I've noticed the same thing. I have a job, but currently looking for something else at the moment as it's looking quite unstable. I've been getting maybe an email or two a day from recruiters and I haven't received a phone call in weeks, which is at lot less than I would usually get. I emailed two recruiters back this week with my CV and neither replied. I'm fairly experienced too (12+ years) so I was kind of surprised. Normally I'd at least get a call back. It didn't seem too bad a couple of months ago, but this last month things seem to have really slowed.
    - ProZsolt 4y ago
      I have 5+ years of experience and was looking for a Senior Go developer position. I started sending out my CV on the second week of September. I got more interviews that I could manage. The companies getting more picky and I got fewer offers than expected, but getting interviews wasn't a problem. As I see here are only a few junior or medior position, but companies are still hiring for senior and above.
  - lancewiggs 4y ago
    How do you feel your blockchain/etc history is impacting potential recruiters?
    - yulaow 4y ago
      Neutral Recruiters for blockchain companies contact me but I said I don't want to work with that technology anymore, recruiters for standard web dev roles understand dapp development as standard web app development
dont__panic 4y ago
In the US, there's definitely less hiring going on, too. Seems more and more common to shut down a successful interview pipeline with the "hiring freeze" excuse.
BlargMcLarg 4y ago
I'm not seeing this at all. Hiring is pretty hot still and wages have increased fiercely. Recruiters are still a plenty too.
- fernandotakai 4y ago
  yeah, agreed. i got a really good offer from an european company, with relocation included.
yrgulation 4y ago
I mean europe is a bunch of diverse economies. So where in europe are you seeing this?
- yulaow 4y ago
  I am looking at remote position in the whole euw
  - yrgulation 4y ago
    Ah well the eu is narrow in tech. In the uk, also a european country, there are loads of roles available.

by yulaow 4y ago

radicalbyte 4y ago

There is a large backlash happening against blockchain right now in Europe, from your profile I would assume that that is the problem.

yulaow 4y ago
Actually it's the opposite. I am done with dapps and blockchain development and just looking for fullstack (preferring only backend when possible) typescript/golang positions. I am getting a good amount of recruiters contacting me for blockchain related positions but every single time I speak with them their projects are so ridiculously stupid I am flabbergasted that they got investors. "Normal web dev" recruiters? Just got 5 of them contacting me in the last 4 weeks and of those I contacted myself: most of them have ghosted me. Last time I was looking for a new job in 3 days I had like 30 recruiters already spamming my linkedin inmail Also I put myself in honeypot, talent.io and hired.com. Got like only one proposal... so thinking something was bad with my profile I contacted their "talent advisors" and each of them sort-of told me the profile was perfect but they were having an hard time getting job openings because of the "current market situation".
- illusiveman 4y ago
  I used to have 2 requests a week on average on Hired. Now, my profile has expired twice without a single request. Definitely, something is wrong with that service. Guess fewer companies are using it. By contrast, it's odd the day I don't get a message on LinkedIn.
  - jmknoll 4y ago
    I've had good experiences with Hired in my current and previous job searches. While there are a couple of companies (the usual suspects) who use it to send out the same recruiter spam that they send elsewhere, I've mostly gotten targeted reach-outs for pretty solid roles. I'm actually starting a job next week that I found with them. LinkedIn, by comparison, is just a constant stream of unsolicited garbage.
  - cableshaft 4y ago
    I had 8 companies reach out to me via Hired.com when I put my profile on there in June/July 2021. One of those companies successfully hired me. They were also where I was getting the highest stated offer ranges (and got the highest offer). LinkedIn was a crapshoot and most of the stated offer ranges were lower, although I did get bombarded with recruiters via LinkedIn (30 reached out the day I flipped the switch, 18 the next day, then it started slowing down). But in general I had a good experience with Hired and plan to use them again next search.
- kypro 4y ago
  I'm in the UK and I've noticed the same thing. I have a job, but currently looking for something else at the moment as it's looking quite unstable. I've been getting maybe an email or two a day from recruiters and I haven't received a phone call in weeks, which is at lot less than I would usually get. I emailed two recruiters back this week with my CV and neither replied. I'm fairly experienced too (12+ years) so I was kind of surprised. Normally I'd at least get a call back. It didn't seem too bad a couple of months ago, but this last month things seem to have really slowed.
  - ProZsolt 4y ago
    I have 5+ years of experience and was looking for a Senior Go developer position. I started sending out my CV on the second week of September. I got more interviews that I could manage. The companies getting more picky and I got fewer offers than expected, but getting interviews wasn't a problem. As I see here are only a few junior or medior position, but companies are still hiring for senior and above.
- lancewiggs 4y ago
  How do you feel your blockchain/etc history is impacting potential recruiters?
  - yulaow 4y ago
    Neutral Recruiters for blockchain companies contact me but I said I don't want to work with that technology anymore, recruiters for standard web dev roles understand dapp development as standard web app development

dont__panic 4y ago

In the US, there's definitely less hiring going on, too. Seems more and more common to shut down a successful interview pipeline with the "hiring freeze" excuse.

BlargMcLarg 4y ago

I'm not seeing this at all. Hiring is pretty hot still and wages have increased fiercely. Recruiters are still a plenty too.

fernandotakai 4y ago
yeah, agreed. i got a really good offer from an european company, with relocation included.

yrgulation 4y ago

I mean europe is a bunch of diverse economies. So where in europe are you seeing this?

yulaow 4y ago
I am looking at remote position in the whole euw
- yrgulation 4y ago
  Ah well the eu is narrow in tech. In the uk, also a european country, there are loads of roles available.