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I had a maths teacher who accused me of cheating because we had coursework to solve a particular problem, I solved the problem for that case and then the genera

I had a maths teacher who accused me of cheating because we had coursework to solve a particular problem, I solved the problem for that case and then the general case using math she hadn’t taught me even had a pascal program that you could enter parameters and it’d give you the answer. She literally couldn’t get her head around a student going to the library, taking out a book on maths and teaching themselves because they where curious. The UK has a very strange educational system, curiosity isn’t encouraged, you learn like a good little peg in a round hole. Left a very bad taste in my mouth but at least she did eventually apologise.

nickstinemates 4y ago
"Never let school get in the way of your education" is roughly the philosophy my parents raised me on. Precisely to encourage what you had done vs. what school expected.
- smeej 4y ago
  Wow, my parents were willing to sacrifice my entire education if it meant I participated in school in the ways they cared about. Your way sounds better.
- ddingus 4y ago
  Mine too, well mostly. My Grandmother worked through my mother to get that done without invoking other fairly painful, in the consuming too much time sense, family dynamics (Father was a mess and mostly out of this part of the picture.), but I digress save to say me too. They want to encourage self directed learning and I am glad they did. If nothing else, boredom becomes a good thing more often. The seeking begins and with that can often come some real learning and insight as it may be applied.
markdown 4y ago
Not unique to the UK. This is common all over the world. It's the most efficient way to educate the masses cheaply.
teachersaredumb 4y ago
Among college-educated professionals, primary and secondary school teachers are near the bottom for intelligence, as measured by SAT scores. https://www.businessinsider.com/heres-the-average-sat-score-for-every-college-major-2014-10 https://www.businessinsider.com/heres-the-average-sat-score-... The pay is shit, so intelligent people decide to pursue other passions instead of teaching. Also, the profession seems to attract the kind of people who like to exercise arbitrary authority over other people. Not a majority of teachers, but a substantial minority. Once I realized these things, a lot of negative experiences I had with teachers made more sense. For what it's worth, I also had some great teachers along the way.
- skinnymuch 4y ago
  Isn’t the biggest or one of the biggest indicator of SAT scores is how wealthy/well off the test taker is? Similarly, the IQ test is flawed too. Neither are representative of intelligence or what is required to be a good teacher
  - teachersaredumb 4y ago
    No. SAT is in fact fairly resistant to preparation. Not as much as some other tests, and not as much as the older versions of the SAT, but it's still largely an intelligence test.
    - skinnymuch 4y ago
      Families making $200K+ do 400 points higher than families making $40K or $20K or less. I forget the exact figure. This study is widely available. 400 point difference is so massive it shows it’s not largely an intelligence test nor is it resistant to prep.
Semaphor 4y ago
> The UK has a very strange educational system, curiosity isn’t encouraged, you learn like a good little peg in a round hole. That was the feeling I had after one week in a UK school through an exchange program. Because my original exchange partner quit on me after seeing my picture, I got assigned a different one who was 2 grades higher. I was pretty average in math back in Germany, but in that class, 2 years above mine (11th while I was 9th), their math riddle that was supposed to take them the whole week was solved by me in one lesson. This was around 20 years ago, though.
- noir_lord 4y ago
  25ish for me. I have a step-son who is (nearly) 13 and about to start seriously in on his GCSE's - the situation hasn't improved, the non-higher tier papers are just embarrassing, the foundational tier he could have done well by the time he was 10 - he likes maths and I always wished I'd pushed it harder when I was young but a spectacularly shitty home-life ensured while I did decent in my GCSE's I didn't do what I could have done - I make sure he doesn't have the same problem.

nickstinemates 4y ago

"Never let school get in the way of your education" is roughly the philosophy my parents raised me on. Precisely to encourage what you had done vs. what school expected.

smeej 4y ago
Wow, my parents were willing to sacrifice my entire education if it meant I participated in school in the ways they cared about. Your way sounds better.
ddingus 4y ago
Mine too, well mostly. My Grandmother worked through my mother to get that done without invoking other fairly painful, in the consuming too much time sense, family dynamics (Father was a mess and mostly out of this part of the picture.), but I digress save to say me too. They want to encourage self directed learning and I am glad they did. If nothing else, boredom becomes a good thing more often. The seeking begins and with that can often come some real learning and insight as it may be applied.

markdown 4y ago

Not unique to the UK. This is common all over the world. It's the most efficient way to educate the masses cheaply.

teachersaredumb 4y ago

Among college-educated professionals, primary and secondary school teachers are near the bottom for intelligence, as measured by SAT scores. https://www.businessinsider.com/heres-the-average-sat-score-for-every-college-major-2014-10 https://www.businessinsider.com/heres-the-average-sat-score-... The pay is shit, so intelligent people decide to pursue other passions instead of teaching. Also, the profession seems to attract the kind of people who like to exercise arbitrary authority over other people. Not a majority of teachers, but a substantial minority. Once I realized these things, a lot of negative experiences I had with teachers made more sense. For what it's worth, I also had some great teachers along the way.

skinnymuch 4y ago
Isn’t the biggest or one of the biggest indicator of SAT scores is how wealthy/well off the test taker is? Similarly, the IQ test is flawed too. Neither are representative of intelligence or what is required to be a good teacher
- teachersaredumb 4y ago
  No. SAT is in fact fairly resistant to preparation. Not as much as some other tests, and not as much as the older versions of the SAT, but it's still largely an intelligence test.
  - skinnymuch 4y ago
    Families making $200K+ do 400 points higher than families making $40K or $20K or less. I forget the exact figure. This study is widely available. 400 point difference is so massive it shows it’s not largely an intelligence test nor is it resistant to prep.

Semaphor 4y ago

> The UK has a very strange educational system, curiosity isn’t encouraged, you learn like a good little peg in a round hole. That was the feeling I had after one week in a UK school through an exchange program. Because my original exchange partner quit on me after seeing my picture, I got assigned a different one who was 2 grades higher. I was pretty average in math back in Germany, but in that class, 2 years above mine (11th while I was 9th), their math riddle that was supposed to take them the whole week was solved by me in one lesson. This was around 20 years ago, though.

noir_lord 4y ago
25ish for me. I have a step-son who is (nearly) 13 and about to start seriously in on his GCSE's - the situation hasn't improved, the non-higher tier papers are just embarrassing, the foundational tier he could have done well by the time he was 10 - he likes maths and I always wished I'd pushed it harder when I was young but a spectacularly shitty home-life ensured while I did decent in my GCSE's I didn't do what I could have done - I make sure he doesn't have the same problem.