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And, to add to this, we need to find and nurture these minds so they don't get bored and can grow at their natural speed.

RC_ITR 4y ago
>Throughout high school, Kaczynski was ahead of his classmates academically. Placed in a more advanced mathematics class, he soon mastered the material. He skipped the eleventh grade, and by attending summer school he graduated at age 15. Kaczynski was one of his school's five National Merit finalists and was encouraged to apply to Harvard.[17] While still at age 15, he was accepted to Harvard and entered the university on a scholarship in 1958 at age 16.[19] A classmate later said Kaczynski was emotionally unprepared: "They packed him up and sent him to Harvard before he was ready ... He didn't even have a driver's license."[9] But we also need to make sure that we respect the humans who possess those brains too...
- PakG1 4y ago
  As discussed in Good Will Hunting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCsE5NffMA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCsE5NffMA
- r00fus 4y ago
  For those who, like me, were wondering - this excerpt is from the Wikipedia page [1] about the Ted Kaczynski, aka the Unabomber. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski
  - irrational 4y ago
    Thank you. I couldn’t figure out who they were talking about.
- Auracle 4y ago
  There should be some sort of university made for people like that - where they’re learning high level stuff but with people their age.
  - Avicebron 4y ago
    Bards college at Simon's Rock did something like this. My friend went when he was 15ish. I used to visit during the summers and while the education was relatively accelerated, there are a host of other issues that don't often get brought up with this model.
    - jetbooster 4y ago
      Added bonus is they come out of it being able to cast 4 first level and 2 second level spells each day
      - irrational 4y ago
        It’s a Bard college. More likely they learned to play the lyre and sing ballads.
        lelanthran 4y ago
        Bard is also a character class in many RPGs (nethack, Bards Tale); GPs comment makes sense in that context.
  - tambourine_man 4y ago
    I think you’d still have a problem mixing 7, 12 and 15 year old kids. Perhaps not as much as 15 with 20, but still. This growing up thing is hard.
    - Manu40 4y ago
      You are so far from wrong, it hurts me to think about it. Due to having a reading level 10 years ahead of my peers, and already having learned math concepts at least 4 years ahead of them... at age 8... I was put 3 years ahead of my peers in school until the teachers realized the other kids were having none of it. They put me back in the 'proper' grade, because 'I' somehow wasn't going to develop social skills well enough in such an environment. They might not have been wrong, but they would have been more correct to tune in the little buggers causing me grief. Or at least let me tune them in...
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- lmm 4y ago
  Letting them get ahead is usually the best way to respect an intelligent student. I wouldn't put a lot of stock in one classmate's opinion about someone's emotional state, and a driving license is hardly the be all and end all (I didn't have one when I went to university, and never missed it). "Don't put students of any age through interrogation-style experiments that are designed to stress them" is probably a better lesson to take from Kaczynski's case.
  - RC_ITR 4y ago
    Sure if you want the student to never be around same aged peers and struggle to develop a social life so they instead focus on their work, I agree.
    - lmm 4y ago
      Students can tell who's smarter and who's not, and someone at the same level of learning will always be far more of a peer than someone who happens to be the same age. All the available evidence is that the best thing for children's social life is to let them interact with people at the same learning level rather than the same age. (To say nothing of the fact that segregating students by age is unnatural in the first place, and traditional cultures where kids grow up around people of a wide range of ages are far better for their social development than the western school model...).
      - RC_ITR 4y ago
        You know what else is natural? Dying of polio
        lmm 4y ago
        It's not coincidence that through most of human history doctors did more harm than good. Yes, sometimes unnatural interventions are better for us than the ancestral environment, but that's very much not the default case.
    - Huh1337 4y ago
Zamicol 4y ago
I don't hear this viewpoint acknowledged enough. Society wasting and discarding undiscovered talent is one of my deepest fears.
- doodledo32 4y ago
- Eisenstein 4y ago
  "I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops." - Stephen Jay Gould
  - EamonnMR 4y ago
    Mismeasure Of Man? SJG is underrated.
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RC_ITR 4y ago

>Throughout high school, Kaczynski was ahead of his classmates academically. Placed in a more advanced mathematics class, he soon mastered the material. He skipped the eleventh grade, and by attending summer school he graduated at age 15. Kaczynski was one of his school's five National Merit finalists and was encouraged to apply to Harvard.[17] While still at age 15, he was accepted to Harvard and entered the university on a scholarship in 1958 at age 16.[19] A classmate later said Kaczynski was emotionally unprepared: "They packed him up and sent him to Harvard before he was ready ... He didn't even have a driver's license."[9] But we also need to make sure that we respect the humans who possess those brains too...

PakG1 4y ago
As discussed in Good Will Hunting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCsE5NffMA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCsE5NffMA
r00fus 4y ago
For those who, like me, were wondering - this excerpt is from the Wikipedia page [1] about the Ted Kaczynski, aka the Unabomber. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski
- irrational 4y ago
  Thank you. I couldn’t figure out who they were talking about.
Auracle 4y ago
There should be some sort of university made for people like that - where they’re learning high level stuff but with people their age.
- Avicebron 4y ago
  Bards college at Simon's Rock did something like this. My friend went when he was 15ish. I used to visit during the summers and while the education was relatively accelerated, there are a host of other issues that don't often get brought up with this model.
  - jetbooster 4y ago
    Added bonus is they come out of it being able to cast 4 first level and 2 second level spells each day
    - irrational 4y ago
      It’s a Bard college. More likely they learned to play the lyre and sing ballads.
      - lelanthran 4y ago
        Bard is also a character class in many RPGs (nethack, Bards Tale); GPs comment makes sense in that context.
- tambourine_man 4y ago
  I think you’d still have a problem mixing 7, 12 and 15 year old kids. Perhaps not as much as 15 with 20, but still. This growing up thing is hard.
  - Manu40 4y ago
    You are so far from wrong, it hurts me to think about it. Due to having a reading level 10 years ahead of my peers, and already having learned math concepts at least 4 years ahead of them... at age 8... I was put 3 years ahead of my peers in school until the teachers realized the other kids were having none of it. They put me back in the 'proper' grade, because 'I' somehow wasn't going to develop social skills well enough in such an environment. They might not have been wrong, but they would have been more correct to tune in the little buggers causing me grief. Or at least let me tune them in...
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lmm 4y ago
Letting them get ahead is usually the best way to respect an intelligent student. I wouldn't put a lot of stock in one classmate's opinion about someone's emotional state, and a driving license is hardly the be all and end all (I didn't have one when I went to university, and never missed it). "Don't put students of any age through interrogation-style experiments that are designed to stress them" is probably a better lesson to take from Kaczynski's case.
- RC_ITR 4y ago
  Sure if you want the student to never be around same aged peers and struggle to develop a social life so they instead focus on their work, I agree.
  - lmm 4y ago
    Students can tell who's smarter and who's not, and someone at the same level of learning will always be far more of a peer than someone who happens to be the same age. All the available evidence is that the best thing for children's social life is to let them interact with people at the same learning level rather than the same age. (To say nothing of the fact that segregating students by age is unnatural in the first place, and traditional cultures where kids grow up around people of a wide range of ages are far better for their social development than the western school model...).
    - RC_ITR 4y ago
      You know what else is natural? Dying of polio
      - lmm 4y ago
        It's not coincidence that through most of human history doctors did more harm than good. Yes, sometimes unnatural interventions are better for us than the ancestral environment, but that's very much not the default case.
  - Huh1337 4y ago

Zamicol 4y ago

I don't hear this viewpoint acknowledged enough. Society wasting and discarding undiscovered talent is one of my deepest fears.

doodledo32 4y ago
Eisenstein 4y ago
"I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops." - Stephen Jay Gould
- EamonnMR 4y ago
  Mismeasure Of Man? SJG is underrated.
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