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Cocaine turned by best friend to a narcissist asshole over the years. I think we have enough narcissists already in our modern society, it's just a very differ

Cocaine turned by best friend to a narcissist asshole over the years. I think we have enough narcissists already in our modern society, it's just a very different drug from cannabis.

12907835202 4y ago
Anecdotally I've lost more friends to weed than cocaine (not lost as in died, just found it impossible to maintain the friendship). I'm not sure anecdotes are that helpful here. Unfortunately I've never actually read a study comparing the two, do we even have accurate statistics on cocaine use?
MartinCron 4y ago
This is a side effect that I'm not aware of. Can you share more, please?
- xiphias2 4y ago
  As I tried cocaine only once or twice (I hated the fast heart beat as a side effect), I can more talk about what I felt and try to project on a long horizon: I felt like I know a lot of things, the solutions to all the hardest problems in my life. I wrote it down, and next day when it wore off, I saw how stupid I was, but I see this effect in my ex friend. He used his social skills to get money from everybody and didn't care about lying to everybody. He got super confident in everything even if his shy antisocial friends knew much more about those topics.] He was quite damaging to a lot of people who trusted him from before when he wasn't an asshole, and he's still in the process of finding new victims as he went into huge debt and played away all the money his mother gathered through hard work all her life. He is her only child, and his dad died in a car accident when he was in his teens.
  - MartinCron 4y ago
    Thanks for sharing. Seems painful. I've seen similar things where people seem to just lose their moral compass along with reasonable inhibitions and I've also attributed that to substance abuse, though not cocaine specifically.
jmartrican 4y ago
That just might be your friend's fault and not the cocaine.
- xiphias2 4y ago
  Have you seen the wolf of wall street? I think he's not the only one.
yboris 4y ago
Would it have been better for your friend to be arrested and put to jail? Because it seems like society currently has only that response to someone using cocaine.
- xiphias2 4y ago
  Not really, I'm in Europe, usage is not criminalized, but selling it is a crime. U.S. might be different, but the article talking about legalisation, not decriminalisation.
sumtechguy 4y ago
That seems to happen to some people. The longer they use it the bigger the jerk they become. My theory is it triggers you to be on high alert all the time so all the slights most people shrug off, do not get shrugged off and they slowly become a jerk. The downsides to many of these drugs is we have scant data on long term use because they are forbidden so the study of it is low. So we end up with a lot of anecdotal data (both for and against).

Cocaine turned by best friend to a narcissist asshole over the years. I think we have enough narcissists already in our modern society, it's just a very different drug from cannabis.

12907835202 4y ago

Anecdotally I've lost more friends to weed than cocaine (not lost as in died, just found it impossible to maintain the friendship). I'm not sure anecdotes are that helpful here. Unfortunately I've never actually read a study comparing the two, do we even have accurate statistics on cocaine use?

MartinCron 4y ago

This is a side effect that I'm not aware of. Can you share more, please?

xiphias2 4y ago
As I tried cocaine only once or twice (I hated the fast heart beat as a side effect), I can more talk about what I felt and try to project on a long horizon: I felt like I know a lot of things, the solutions to all the hardest problems in my life. I wrote it down, and next day when it wore off, I saw how stupid I was, but I see this effect in my ex friend. He used his social skills to get money from everybody and didn't care about lying to everybody. He got super confident in everything even if his shy antisocial friends knew much more about those topics.] He was quite damaging to a lot of people who trusted him from before when he wasn't an asshole, and he's still in the process of finding new victims as he went into huge debt and played away all the money his mother gathered through hard work all her life. He is her only child, and his dad died in a car accident when he was in his teens.
- MartinCron 4y ago
  Thanks for sharing. Seems painful. I've seen similar things where people seem to just lose their moral compass along with reasonable inhibitions and I've also attributed that to substance abuse, though not cocaine specifically.

jmartrican 4y ago

That just might be your friend's fault and not the cocaine.

xiphias2 4y ago
Have you seen the wolf of wall street? I think he's not the only one.

yboris 4y ago

Would it have been better for your friend to be arrested and put to jail? Because it seems like society currently has only that response to someone using cocaine.

xiphias2 4y ago
Not really, I'm in Europe, usage is not criminalized, but selling it is a crime. U.S. might be different, but the article talking about legalisation, not decriminalisation.

sumtechguy 4y ago

That seems to happen to some people. The longer they use it the bigger the jerk they become. My theory is it triggers you to be on high alert all the time so all the slights most people shrug off, do not get shrugged off and they slowly become a jerk. The downsides to many of these drugs is we have scant data on long term use because they are forbidden so the study of it is low. So we end up with a lot of anecdotal data (both for and against).