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made an account simply to say that when you say things like "The bottom two are legitimately part of the Fediverse – albeit the shady alleyways of the Fediverse

made an account simply to say that when you say things like "The bottom two are legitimately part of the Fediverse – albeit the shady alleyways of the Fediverse" its really obvious how poorly you think of these other groups, such that even if they're still people using the same software for this, that because of their views they aren't "legitimate". i dont really get that, but i figure i'd say that when you lead off with They're Literal Neo Nazis, 1) people tend to not care (and if you or someone else does, dont join them, defed, mute. just let others live their own lives ffs) and 2) not all poast users are nazis even if many of them are, same with fse or spc or any other given. also as far as "no one uses his instance" idk i think 500 people is a pretty big amount to have a personal dev server. if you want to just live your life, stop posting about how some guy who has no access to your life beyond you looking at his stuff or being shown it on fedi. just block the guy, mute instance, set up a reject, and fucking focus on something else. theres other shit to do that isnt giving a shit about some nerd on the internet that you dont like. theres so many other things in fact that i'd imagine you'd enjoy doing much more than thinking about Alex Gleason. have a good day yo.

wizzwizz4 4y ago
> its really obvious how poorly you think of these other groups, Nah, shady alleyways are great. I'm friendly acquaintances with quite a few people there, and it's legitimately the right place for them. They're just not places I'd send somebody new to the Fediverse to, for the same reason I wouldn't direct a tourist through the backstreets. Sorry if the analogy wasn't clear. But the others? They aren't legitimate members of the community. They're not making the protocols; they're not interested in the ideals or in collaboration; and they want to hurt the people who are. > when you lead off with They're Literal Neo Nazis I don't know how else to describe them. What do you call somebody who puts Nazi armbands, pictures of Adolf Hitler, and the word 'Nazi' in their bio, and regularly talks about how much they want to commit genocide? People who are so aligned with Nazism that they even call themselves Nazis are not welcome. It's not just "views". They want to murder us. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism > many of them are [Nazis], same with fse or spc or any other given. Nope, couldn't find any Nazis on SPC. There are xenophobes and self-described fascists on FSE, but I haven't seen any card-carrying Nazis – and I've already said what I have to say about that instance, anyway. If somebody there starts causing problems for the rest of Fedi, they soon discover they can't take what they dish out. There are disagreements about basically everything else, but the Fediverse does not tolerate actual Nazis. > stop posting about how some guy who has no access to your life To my knowledge, this is the second thing I've written about him that wasn't to him. (The first was my previous comment in this thread.) I don't have any particular reason to rant about him – but that doesn't mean I'm going to avoid discussing him when it's relevant. He's not a stranger to me. While he was still tolerated in them, we ran in the same circles. I trusted him enough to approve his follow request.¹ The last conversation I remember us having – before I made some followers-only posts about myself that, apparently, put me on his 'undesirables' list – was me being excited to play his upcoming video game.² It's not a case of him being kicked out of our spaces; he removed himself from them with his antagonistic and bullying behaviour. (He even tried to force people to use his protocols by deliberately breaking compatibility; that's not how the Fediverse works.) And now he's pretending he speaks for the whole Fediverse – something none of us do – when his software isn't even compatible with Diaspora*. And he's telling people that a group of Nazis is the Fediverse's idea of "welcoming to newcomers". If he stopped being such a prick, I'd welcome him back. Because I liked him. --- ¹: He uses Pleroma, so everything short of DMs would've shown up on his Home timeline. Unlike Mastodon's Home timeline algorithm, this would've included unlisted replies to other people's unlisted threads, and my parts of 'followers-only' conversations even where he wasn't following the other participants. So, quite a lot of access to my life, actually. ²: The video game appears abandoned, now; it's unfinished, and hasn't been worked on for over two years. Must've dropped off his list of priorities.

wizzwizz4 4y ago

> its really obvious how poorly you think of these other groups, Nah, shady alleyways are great. I'm friendly acquaintances with quite a few people there, and it's legitimately the right place for them. They're just not places I'd send somebody new to the Fediverse to, for the same reason I wouldn't direct a tourist through the backstreets. Sorry if the analogy wasn't clear. But the others? They aren't legitimate members of the community. They're not making the protocols; they're not interested in the ideals or in collaboration; and they want to hurt the people who are. > when you lead off with They're Literal Neo Nazis I don't know how else to describe them. What do you call somebody who puts Nazi armbands, pictures of Adolf Hitler, and the word 'Nazi' in their bio, and regularly talks about how much they want to commit genocide? People who are so aligned with Nazism that they even call themselves Nazis are not welcome. It's not just "views". They want to murder us. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism > many of them are [Nazis], same with fse or spc or any other given. Nope, couldn't find any Nazis on SPC. There are xenophobes and self-described fascists on FSE, but I haven't seen any card-carrying Nazis – and I've already said what I have to say about that instance, anyway. If somebody there starts causing problems for the rest of Fedi, they soon discover they can't take what they dish out. There are disagreements about basically everything else, but the Fediverse does not tolerate actual Nazis. > stop posting about how some guy who has no access to your life To my knowledge, this is the second thing I've written about him that wasn't to him. (The first was my previous comment in this thread.) I don't have any particular reason to rant about him – but that doesn't mean I'm going to avoid discussing him when it's relevant. He's not a stranger to me. While he was still tolerated in them, we ran in the same circles. I trusted him enough to approve his follow request.¹ The last conversation I remember us having – before I made some followers-only posts about myself that, apparently, put me on his 'undesirables' list – was me being excited to play his upcoming video game.² It's not a case of him being kicked out of our spaces; he removed himself from them with his antagonistic and bullying behaviour. (He even tried to force people to use his protocols by deliberately breaking compatibility; that's not how the Fediverse works.) And now he's pretending he speaks for the whole Fediverse – something none of us do – when his software isn't even compatible with Diaspora*. And he's telling people that a group of Nazis is the Fediverse's idea of "welcoming to newcomers". If he stopped being such a prick, I'd welcome him back. Because I liked him. --- ¹: He uses Pleroma, so everything short of DMs would've shown up on his Home timeline. Unlike Mastodon's Home timeline algorithm, this would've included unlisted replies to other people's unlisted threads, and my parts of 'followers-only' conversations even where he wasn't following the other participants. So, quite a lot of access to my life, actually. ²: The video game appears abandoned, now; it's unfinished, and hasn't been worked on for over two years. Must've dropped off his list of priorities.