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If you want to put your own flights online for everyone to see that's your business. Why do you think you should be the one to make that decision for someone e

by djbebs 4y ago

If you want to put your own flights online for everyone to see that's your business. Why do you think you should be the one to make that decision for someone else?

dylan604 4y ago
I'm not making any decisions for someone else. I'm just stating that I'm not seeing anything wrong with the idea of making drones transmit ID just like any other craft in the air is expected to do. Why do you think that what you do in public air space is private?
haswell 4y ago
I don't think most of this mattered before drones became low effort, long distance, extremely high resolution photographic surveillance machines that are capable of flying into real flight paths. More and more people are finding these things hovering outside their windows in urban environments, and as they become easier and easier to fly, people are flying into flight paths, dangerously over people and roadways, and in locations that should be obvious to avoid. Chicago enacted strict drone ordinances to combat this after an explosion of "nosy drone sightings", and this wasn't pearl clutching, it was downright creepy behavior by the operators. More recently, the FAA had to issue a warning about drone operators flying into the flight paths of planes on approach to O'Hare. People take their drone out to the lake and think everything's fine, but a lot of the lake is directly in those flight paths. Especially in city centers, a drone is participating in a large and complex airspace, and it's more about ensuring drones continue to operate safely in that environment and less about making that decision for someone else. If you fly a plane, you're transmitting ADS-B, because that is what is required to fly a plane safely. The same requirement is looking more and more necessary for drones.
- lsaferite 4y ago
  > If you fly a plane, you're transmitting ADS-B, because that is what is required to fly a plane safely. The same requirement is looking more and more necessary for drones. My issue with RemoteID is that it's ALSO transmitting the _current_ physical location of the pilot. The pilot of a potentially very expensive piece of gear. That seems like a great way to get robbed. The rest of RemoteID is fine.
  - haswell 4y ago
    That is a fair criticism. I did not realize it was transmitting pilot location as well. Seems like a bad implementation of a necessary thing.
- bri3d 4y ago
  What's bizarre about Remote ID by the "airspace safety" line of thought is that there's no real plan for aircraft or even ATC to have Remote ID-in receivers, and some of the approved MOC are _very_ short range and probably wouldn't even reach from the lake to the O'Hare tower in your example. With the current MOC methods, it's really just a way for law enforcement to seek out stuff that's flying in the extremely immediate (like <1km) vicinity.

by djbebs 4y ago

If you want to put your own flights online for everyone to see that's your business. Why do you think you should be the one to make that decision for someone else?

dylan604 4y ago

I'm not making any decisions for someone else. I'm just stating that I'm not seeing anything wrong with the idea of making drones transmit ID just like any other craft in the air is expected to do. Why do you think that what you do in public air space is private?

haswell 4y ago

I don't think most of this mattered before drones became low effort, long distance, extremely high resolution photographic surveillance machines that are capable of flying into real flight paths. More and more people are finding these things hovering outside their windows in urban environments, and as they become easier and easier to fly, people are flying into flight paths, dangerously over people and roadways, and in locations that should be obvious to avoid. Chicago enacted strict drone ordinances to combat this after an explosion of "nosy drone sightings", and this wasn't pearl clutching, it was downright creepy behavior by the operators. More recently, the FAA had to issue a warning about drone operators flying into the flight paths of planes on approach to O'Hare. People take their drone out to the lake and think everything's fine, but a lot of the lake is directly in those flight paths. Especially in city centers, a drone is participating in a large and complex airspace, and it's more about ensuring drones continue to operate safely in that environment and less about making that decision for someone else. If you fly a plane, you're transmitting ADS-B, because that is what is required to fly a plane safely. The same requirement is looking more and more necessary for drones.

lsaferite 4y ago
> If you fly a plane, you're transmitting ADS-B, because that is what is required to fly a plane safely. The same requirement is looking more and more necessary for drones. My issue with RemoteID is that it's ALSO transmitting the _current_ physical location of the pilot. The pilot of a potentially very expensive piece of gear. That seems like a great way to get robbed. The rest of RemoteID is fine.
- haswell 4y ago
  That is a fair criticism. I did not realize it was transmitting pilot location as well. Seems like a bad implementation of a necessary thing.
bri3d 4y ago
What's bizarre about Remote ID by the "airspace safety" line of thought is that there's no real plan for aircraft or even ATC to have Remote ID-in receivers, and some of the approved MOC are _very_ short range and probably wouldn't even reach from the lake to the O'Hare tower in your example. With the current MOC methods, it's really just a way for law enforcement to seek out stuff that's flying in the extremely immediate (like <1km) vicinity.