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Framework Laptops Now Offering Refurbished Products
- CleverLikeAnOx 4y agoFramework making laptops less disposable fills me with joy. I hope someone is able to do the same with cellphones.
- km3k 4y agoFairphone is trying to, but their market is mainly limited to Europe.
- lillecarl 4y agoI have one at home, and I must say that it's very decent. Was my daily for a year. BUT the camera is crap, it's big and it's quite slow. Only thing that was a "deal breaker" was the camera though, it just doesn't cut it for what we expect these days.
- shp0ngle 4y agoYeah, I have looked into one and the pictures are really bad. The hardware is decent, so people say the poop camera quality is mainly causes by the software, and they keep improving it. Maybe. But I have two kids now, one 1 year old and one 3 year old, and I want to take as best pictures of them as possible. FairPhone 4 makes worse photos than iPhone 7.
- dbingham 4y agoI really want to get a Framework laptop, all their values seem very well aligned with what I want from a laptop maker, but until they offer a model with a larger display I'm stuck waiting. As a developer, I really need at least a 15" display, preferably 16" or 17".
- mkmk3 4y agoIll take whatever display size, just looking to earn some more or see something on the cheaper side, honestly, upgradability and repairbility, all else be damned
- simcop2387 4y agoYou might be able to do that now, collect a bunch of refurbished parts and assemble a new laptop yourself.
- lake_vincent 4y agoHonestly, I thought the same thing, but I am an extremely happy Framework v2 owner, and I don't miss the extra real estate. I have multiple external monitors for when I am coding at home, and don't mind the small screen when I'm not at my workstation. It's so light and portable too, it's easy to pick up and move with one hand. I adore my Framework laptop. I've got Windows 11 running WSL2 on it, and for me it is the ultimate dev workstation. I totally understand where you are coming from though, as I really was in the same boat. YMMV, of course.
- nullandvoid 4y ago+1 I really wanted a framework laptop, but had to go with Asus M16 in the end due to size limitations. A dedicated GPU is another missing feature for me. I'm hoping with how powerful iGPU are becoming (amd 7000 looks promising) this should be a non issue hopefully by next purchase.
- buildbot 4y agoThey support thunderbolt, when I tried a framework laptop for a bit I was able to use an external GPU box when I needed the extra horsepower. But that may not work for your use case of course.
- nullandvoid 4y agoUnfortunately I require something portable as I'm travelling a lot, and that's not something I can easily chuck in my laptop bag! Good to know though play nicely with eGPUs though for future reference.
- pmlnr 4y agoA keyboard with full sized arrows, dedicated pgup/pgdown, 3 physical mouse buttons and a trackpoint, I'm begging you, please.
- smoldesu 4y agoAren't you just looking for a Thinkpad at that point?
- causi 4y agoYes. I'm looking forward to the "framework 2". What's the point of having four interchangeable ports when my daily driver laptop already has 3 type-A, two type-C, an SD and microSD reader, and HDMI-out all at the same time? Give me the cool shit, Framework. Gimme a module that's actually a bluetooth mouse. Gimme a module that's just a horizontal stack of like six USB2 ports. Gimme an ethernet port and a serial port.
- stormbrew 4y agoIntroducing a whole new structure for modules would be a huge self-defeat for their reason for existing. I didn't get a framework laptop with the expectation they'd obsolete it in a couple years.
- colejohnson66 4y agoThey could make an adapter that allows the current, smaller modules to fit in these supposed future voids. If done right, this adapter could be completely passive (no circuits).
- causi 4y agoWhy would you need a whole new structure? They've already shown they're willing to have extended-body modules such as the ethernet one.
- stormbrew 4y agoI mean if you want a wider thing with multiple ports you can just get a usbc thing that does that and plug it into the usbc module? There's lots of those out there. The Ethernet one sticks out a little but a multiple usb-a port one would be a lot bigger and put more mechanical stress on the whole thing.
- Octabrain 4y agoI am really tempted to get a Framework laptop. Has anyone real world stories about using it with Linux (specifically Fedora)? Thanks in advance.
- bo1024 4y agoI have been running Fedora (35 I think) for about a year. I'm happy with the battery life while in use -- not blown away, but happy -- but it does still drain with the lid closed unless shut down. Everything else is perfect.
- GauntletWizard 4y agoI'm an arch user on my Framework, and it's going very well for me, aside from the Intel Graphics fiasco a few days ago (Wasn't exclusive to Arch or Framework).
- mkmk3 4y agoAll I have to refer to is NixOS, no fedora (not op). Seems pretty good though. https://blog.tjll.net/one-year-with-nixos-on-framework/ https://blog.tjll.net/one-year-with-nixos-on-framework/
- byefruit 4y agoCan't really speak to Fedora but Ubuntu 22.04 works almost perfectly on the 12th Gen (there's a driver you have to blacklist to get the media keys to work).
- ggpsv 4y agoUbuntu 22.04 works flawlessly out of the box for me, assuming you've completed the setup guide provided by Framework. Using it as my daily work computer.
- nilespotter 4y agoSearch around for user experiences w/r/t battery life on Framework. My sense from a little over a year ago was that they built a windows machine that runs Linux pretty well but the battery life is abysmal. May be totally fixed by now.
- radicaldreamer 4y agoThis is awesome, if Framework's testing is anything like Apple's, their refurbished products will actually be higher quality than "new" ones, primarily due to a thorough testing of components.
- esel2k 4y agoI buy generally alot of things used/refurbished - also my beloved X1 carbon. As a swiss I always found it difficult to find the right keyboard, especially with ultrabooks. If framework would make it easy to buy another keyboard format I am all in (ready to pay the other keyboard incl small change fee). On the other hand if like all other manufacturers you are pretty much tied to one keyboard language(hard to change) then the chance the find the right model is so small that I wouldn’t care looking.
- jonesetc 4y agoNot sure if any of the existing ones matches what you're looking for, but my understanding is that they offer just what you're looking for: https://frame.work/marketplace/keyboards https://frame.work/marketplace/keyboards
- jtolmar 4y agoMy Framework laptop suddenly stopped charging or booting. Hopefully it'll end up being one of these, if their support ever stops telling me to retry charging it for 24 hours.
- MichaelMoser123 4y agojust in time for the layoff wave.
- victor9000 4y agoThis sounds great, but I would expect a discount larger than $80 for purchasing a refurbished product. In particular, I'm looking at the 11th gen DIY units at: https://frame.work/marketplace/laptops https://frame.work/marketplace/laptops
- blacksmith_tb 4y agoUnderstandable (who wouldn't like anything they're shopping for to be cheaper...) I actually tend to prefer refurbs because they've been gone over by the real A Team, unlike units rolling off the line (that may depend a little on who we're talking about, Apple has worked out for me at least). Not in the market for another laptop right now, but the Frameworks are high on my list.
- jerlam 4y agoNew 11th gen DIY units don't appear to be sold at all, so not only are they refurbished, but also discontinued.
- spiffytech 4y agoIt looks like they just sold out - they were still available a day or two ago.
- awestroke 4y agoIf they ever release a model with an AMD processor, I'll buy one immediately
- Markoff 4y agoYeah, I think I'll pass with decent refurn Thinkpads going for 300-400 EUR, this doesn't have even 7 row keyboard.