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You’re assuming everyone actually obeyed the restrictions which is a pretty funny assumption. It only takes one person in a household to go to a gathering that

You’re assuming everyone actually obeyed the restrictions which is a pretty funny assumption. It only takes one person in a household to go to a gathering that wasn’t supposed to happen (and there were plenty of those) and then come back and get everyone else sick. In any case that 10% is ~10,000 people saved. For the brief period of time when people largely followed the restrictions I feel like that is a good ROI. That’s 3 September 11ths, what did we sacrifice trying to avoid another one of those?

fallingknife 4y ago
If we are not willing to enforce the restrictions to the point that they will be effective in carrying out their intended purpose, then there should be no such restrictions. Three 911's is meaningless to compare because the response is so much different. A better comparison would be 0.2 bad flu seasons. Because no one ever wore a mask during a bad flu season, not to mention any of the actually relevant and economically damaging measures taken to stop covid.
- jliptzin 4y ago
  "Because no one ever wore a mask during a bad flu season" Not true - picture from 1918 https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2021/12/17/USAT/bbeb7dc2-2df4-4389-8840-738b14994f8d-cmlpl_000402_access.jpg?width=1320&height=816&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2021/12/17/USAT/bbeb7dc2-... Also, a million people out of the labor force because they're dead seems like it would have a negative economic impact
rayiner 4y ago
If you look at the absolute carnage at school test scores it was not a good ROI. We sacrificed the well being of the young for the lives of the old.
- themitigating 4y ago
  Should we redirect the money given to medicare and social security to families?
  - random314 4y ago
    Wont somebody think of the childrens test scores?
landemva 4y ago
Whose restrictions? I was "critical infrastructure" and went to many mine sites. MSHA guidance was basically to continue with safety protocols which includes to stay home if sick. Nobody was wearing masks because they dangerously limit vision. The mine sites were great to work at during the fear-fest because people were rational. One mine had a pig roast for the employees and families and it was glorious to sit elbow-to-elbow with real people. Going to shop for a part had ridiculous OSHA-inspired theater with signs and where to walk and masks and counting people. It was a mental trip to come off highly regulated mine sites and go to a grocery store filled with people participating in a scare-fest and making sure they followed directional arrows in the aisles. Like two different worlds. The miners had it right.

fallingknife 4y ago

If we are not willing to enforce the restrictions to the point that they will be effective in carrying out their intended purpose, then there should be no such restrictions. Three 911's is meaningless to compare because the response is so much different. A better comparison would be 0.2 bad flu seasons. Because no one ever wore a mask during a bad flu season, not to mention any of the actually relevant and economically damaging measures taken to stop covid.

jliptzin 4y ago
"Because no one ever wore a mask during a bad flu season" Not true - picture from 1918 https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2021/12/17/USAT/bbeb7dc2-2df4-4389-8840-738b14994f8d-cmlpl_000402_access.jpg?width=1320&height=816&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2021/12/17/USAT/bbeb7dc2-... Also, a million people out of the labor force because they're dead seems like it would have a negative economic impact

rayiner 4y ago

If you look at the absolute carnage at school test scores it was not a good ROI. We sacrificed the well being of the young for the lives of the old.

themitigating 4y ago
Should we redirect the money given to medicare and social security to families?
- random314 4y ago
  Wont somebody think of the childrens test scores?

landemva 4y ago

Whose restrictions? I was "critical infrastructure" and went to many mine sites. MSHA guidance was basically to continue with safety protocols which includes to stay home if sick. Nobody was wearing masks because they dangerously limit vision. The mine sites were great to work at during the fear-fest because people were rational. One mine had a pig roast for the employees and families and it was glorious to sit elbow-to-elbow with real people. Going to shop for a part had ridiculous OSHA-inspired theater with signs and where to walk and masks and counting people. It was a mental trip to come off highly regulated mine sites and go to a grocery store filled with people participating in a scare-fest and making sure they followed directional arrows in the aisles. Like two different worlds. The miners had it right.