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> Seems like premature analysis which would be better and easier done after more conversation rather than prejudging half the population. If she does not need

> Seems like premature analysis which would be better and easier done after more conversation rather than prejudging half the population. If she does not need to deal with people who might have a burner number, she would be stupid to deal with people who might have a burner number

michaelmrose 4y ago
If you wanted to keep a second "burner" phone. Your own prior generation phone would be substantially less suspicious option compared to buying a second device. iPhone users may well in fact prefer an iPhone either a relatively cheap model if they are of the affluent set or a used model purchased for cash. There is absolutely no reason to believe that this would eliminate all burner phones. Lets do some speculation to firm up the idea. 55% of US users have an android, 45 an iphone and our overall probability of talking to someone who already has a girlfriend is on the overall pretty high say 50% with half of those having a second phone and 80% of those being cheap androids. The overall percentages of users using each platform is actual the rest is speculation. I have actually probably WAY overestimated the numbers to prove that the strongest argument is basically still bad. Take 1000 suitors. 500 are cheating bastards. Your chance are 50/50. You apply your first pass green bubble filter and filter out 550 including many good matches. Lets look at how this effects the cheater pop. We start with 500. 250 aren't using a burner phone and 113 passed the green bubble test another 50 passed because their burner is an iphone. Your first pass filter only reduced the cheating bastard percentage from 50% to 36%. Now if we reduce the cheating bastard percentage to a hopefully more realistic 25% we are talking about it reducing the percentage from 25->18. The worst thing about this algorithm is that it makes it impossible to bubble up especially good choices who nonetheless fail the green bubble test. It's also one that potential bad choices can trivially game by buying a 4 year old iphone on facebook for $90. It's the worst of all possible worlds. > For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. H. L. Mencken Talk to people like human beings and you should be able to more reliably pick out the cheating bastards.
- notyourday 4y ago
  If she does not need to deal with someone might have a burner number, she is not going to deal with someone who might have a burner number. The end. > Talk to people like human beings and you should be able to more reliably pick out the cheating bastards. She does not need to talk to people who put themselves into a pile of "might have a burner number" because her deck would be more than full without those.
  - michaelmrose 4y ago
    It's really weird to redefine buying the phone OS used by 80% of the planet and 55% of the US uses as a willfully suspicious act. It's not about how many people you have time to date its picking a deliberately substandard algorithm when there are seventeen more readily at hand. It's about being bad at the game of life and then justifying bad strategy with bad logic. I would advise your friend to pick a better strategy.
    - notyourday 4y ago
      They do extremely well utilizing this strategy.
      - michaelmrose 4y ago
        Which doesn't at all prove that its a good strategy. A moderately attractive female that is reasonable well put together has sufficient options that she could probably concoct an absurd strategy filtering by hair color and astrology and still do extremely well. This wouldn't prove that astrology is a great way to date. It proves that if you start far enough ahead of the game you can run the race by hopping on one foot.

michaelmrose 4y ago

If you wanted to keep a second "burner" phone. Your own prior generation phone would be substantially less suspicious option compared to buying a second device. iPhone users may well in fact prefer an iPhone either a relatively cheap model if they are of the affluent set or a used model purchased for cash. There is absolutely no reason to believe that this would eliminate all burner phones. Lets do some speculation to firm up the idea. 55% of US users have an android, 45 an iphone and our overall probability of talking to someone who already has a girlfriend is on the overall pretty high say 50% with half of those having a second phone and 80% of those being cheap androids. The overall percentages of users using each platform is actual the rest is speculation. I have actually probably WAY overestimated the numbers to prove that the strongest argument is basically still bad. Take 1000 suitors. 500 are cheating bastards. Your chance are 50/50. You apply your first pass green bubble filter and filter out 550 including many good matches. Lets look at how this effects the cheater pop. We start with 500. 250 aren't using a burner phone and 113 passed the green bubble test another 50 passed because their burner is an iphone. Your first pass filter only reduced the cheating bastard percentage from 50% to 36%. Now if we reduce the cheating bastard percentage to a hopefully more realistic 25% we are talking about it reducing the percentage from 25->18. The worst thing about this algorithm is that it makes it impossible to bubble up especially good choices who nonetheless fail the green bubble test. It's also one that potential bad choices can trivially game by buying a 4 year old iphone on facebook for $90. It's the worst of all possible worlds. > For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. H. L. Mencken Talk to people like human beings and you should be able to more reliably pick out the cheating bastards.

notyourday 4y ago
If she does not need to deal with someone might have a burner number, she is not going to deal with someone who might have a burner number. The end. > Talk to people like human beings and you should be able to more reliably pick out the cheating bastards. She does not need to talk to people who put themselves into a pile of "might have a burner number" because her deck would be more than full without those.
- michaelmrose 4y ago
  It's really weird to redefine buying the phone OS used by 80% of the planet and 55% of the US uses as a willfully suspicious act. It's not about how many people you have time to date its picking a deliberately substandard algorithm when there are seventeen more readily at hand. It's about being bad at the game of life and then justifying bad strategy with bad logic. I would advise your friend to pick a better strategy.
  - notyourday 4y ago
    They do extremely well utilizing this strategy.
    - michaelmrose 4y ago
      Which doesn't at all prove that its a good strategy. A moderately attractive female that is reasonable well put together has sufficient options that she could probably concoct an absurd strategy filtering by hair color and astrology and still do extremely well. This wouldn't prove that astrology is a great way to date. It proves that if you start far enough ahead of the game you can run the race by hopping on one foot.