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What’s the problem with US banning Chinese tech when China has been doing the same to the US for decades?
by Group_B 4y ago
What’s the problem with US banning Chinese tech when China has been doing the same to the US for decades?
- LatteLazy 4y agoIt lets US companies be lazy. Then those companies cannot compete globally. Then the US ends up with the shittier products on the market because it's that or nothing. This is why the US generally tries to engage in free trade: It's better in the long term. The fact the same isn't happening here will just mean US citizens don't get better, faster, cheaper mobile networks. Everyone else will. And that will stifle other areas of the US economy too. If China wants to self harm for political reasons, that's their loss. Don't copy them.
- stjohnswarts 4y agoThere is plenty of competition from Korea, Japan, Europe, etc. We don't need to have network and telecom equipment from our military enemies at the core of our communications infrastructure.
- LatteLazy 4y agoThat depends. For 5G infra? There really isn't much competition. The three makers are Huawei, Cisco and Ericsson. And Huawei is cheaper and better than the others. So if you remove them you have a duopoly. And you have the exact situation I described above: the US get's crapy, more expensive kit and the rest of the world takes a leap forwards...
- voxic11 4y agoNokia and Qualcomm make 5g equipment as well don't they? Or are you saying they aren't competitive?
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- hulitu 4y ago> This is why the US generally tries to engage in free trade: It's better in the long term. The US generally engages in free trade only when it's better for US in the long term.
- LatteLazy 4y agoI think it's a bit more complex than that: free trade is almost always better for the US overall. Sometimes the US does not engage in it for political reasons (including corruption which is what this seems to be). But yes, self interest is ultimately the motivating factor unless a narrow group can hijack that and hard US interests for (for instance) corporate interests...
- trasz 4y agoCan you provide some examples of China banning American tech?
- pshirshov 4y agoWell, Google?
- trasz 4y agoIt’s not banned in China.
- skissane 4y agoLast time I went to mainland China, I could only access google.com using a VPN. How is that not "banned"?
- trasz 4y agoUsing your analogy, US blocking a Swiss child porn site would be “banning EU businesses”. Google isn’t banned in China, it just isn’t operating there, because it would need to obey the law.
- skissane 4y agoSo, if the US says that foreign communications equipment firms who want to sell into the US have to demonstrate they are not subservient to any non-democratic government-a standard Huawei and ZTE cannot meet-then Huawei and ZTE are not (by your logic) being “banned” either, they are merely unwilling or unable to comply with US law and government policy.
- trasz 4y agoExcept Huawei and ZTE aren’t any more “subservient” than non-Chinese companies. That, btw, is another aspect of this problem - American companies like Cisco have been shown to plant backdoors, while the “subservient” Huawei hadn’t.