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I have to point out an anachronism in the animated gif: 10 PRINT "HELLO WORLD" 20 GOTO 10 I don't think anyone would have typed "HELLO WORLD" on TRS-8
by khazhoux 4y ago
I have to point out an anachronism in the animated gif:
10 PRINT "HELLO WORLD"
20 GOTO 10
I don't think anyone would have typed "HELLO WORLD" on TRS-80 BASIC. That came from C lineage and wasn't popularized till later. I think you'd write "Hi" or "Hi John" or something... funny.
My first computer was a TRS-80 Model III at age 9, at my dad's work during summer vacation.
- kevin_thibedeau 4y agoIt was definitely in the introductory BASIC teaching materials for TRS-80 and other micros.
- jasode 4y ago>It was definitely in the introductory BASIC teaching materials for TRS-80 and other micros. For 8-bit home computers of 1980s, I don't remember any of the official BASIC manuals that came with computer using "HELLO WORLD" in the examples. That includes Radio Shack TRS-80, Commodore 64, Texas Instruments TI-99, Atari 400/800, etc. Some cursory search of archived books seems to confirm my memory: https://archive.org/details/Model_100_Basic_Language_Lab_1983_Tandy/page/n9/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/Model_100_Basic_Language_Lab_198... https://archive.org/details/commodore-64-user-guide/page/n47/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/commodore-64-user-guide/page/n47... https://archive.org/details/tibook_beginners-basic/page/n9/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/tibook_beginners-basic/page/n9/m... Maybe some unofficial 3rd-party BASIC guides or classes used the string "HELLO WORLD". I personally didn't see that until reading K&R C Language book. Although "Hello world" was 1974, it really didn't seem to spread into wide programming culture until 1990s. I kind of vaguely remember some BASIC examples somewhere using 10 PRINT "HELLO" 20 GOTO 10... but that wasn't the full "HELLO WORLD".
- marcodiego 4y agoAFAIK the oldest reference to "Hello World!\n" (I think it was capitalized like that) was from "The C programming language" which was released in 1978. When it popularized for home computers is harder to determine.
- fm2606 4y agoI was in 8th grade and the library had a room with 4 or 5 TRS 80 Model 3. Students were not allowed in the room unless accompanied by a teacher. One day in math class we watched a TV show about computers that ran that small program only the statement went across the entire screen. The teacher wheeled in one of the TRS-80s and typed in the program above and said he didn't know how to make it go across the screen like the TV show. I told him to put a semicolon at the end of line 10, which he did and it ran just like the show. After that I think I was the only student who was allowed in the computer room without supervision. My only claim to fame with TRS 80s ;-)
- stevekemp 4y agoYes, my GOTO demonstration was always: 10 PRINT "STEVE ROCKS!!!!!" 20 GOTO 10
- stolenmerch 4y agoCorrect. It was always something like PRINT "HELLO. I AM YOUR NEW TRS-80 MICROCOMPUTER [0] or PRINT "HI, I'M YOUR NEW COLOR COMPUTER" [1] [0] https://archive.org/details/TRS80ModelIPreliminaryUsersManual/page/n9/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/TRS80ModelIPreliminaryUsersManua... [1] https://ia801905.us.archive.org/30/items/Getting_Started_with_Extended_Color_BASIC_1984_Tandy/Getting_Started_with_Extended_Color_BASIC_1984_Tandy.pdf https://ia801905.us.archive.org/30/items/Getting_Started_wit...
- puppyprogram 4y agoThe first thing I printed in a loop was "poop" I thought it was comic gold