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Galileo had spoken of these ideas with the pope (who was a friend) previously and the pope was somewhat amenable to them, but still preferred geocentrism. The

Galileo had spoken of these ideas with the pope (who was a friend) previously and the pope was somewhat amenable to them, but still preferred geocentrism. The pope thought that Galileo should write up his ideas about heliocentrism, but asked that he include the arguments in favor of geocentrism as well. Galileo then wrote his work as a conversation consisting of two intelligent men, one who favors heliocentrism and a neutral arbiter, along with a slow-witted character appropriately named "Simplicio," who gives ridiculous arguments in favor of geocentrism. It was no mystery that Simplicio was a stand-in for the pope.

nier 4y ago
Thanks for your enlightening comment. This seems to be a well-written article that goes more into depth: https://thonyc.wordpress.com/2014/05/29/galileo-the-church-and-heliocentricity-a-rough-guide/ https://thonyc.wordpress.com/2014/05/29/galileo-the-church-a...
tenpies 4y ago
It's quite interesting to think that this problem persists today - with the modern popes of the modern religions of course.
- 77pt77 4y ago
  And it won't ever go away with social apes.
nurettin 4y ago
I really can't blame the guy. Imagine the evolution vs creationism "debates" of the 21st century and the creationists asking for "the other view" to be represented in public schools when we know for a fact that life and speciation didn't just appear ex-nihilo. Honestly, I think someone needs to ridicule the ridiculous.
- positus 4y ago
  > we know for a fact that life and speciation didn't just appear ex-nihilo Man takes a few years of school, reads a few books, and thinks he has a comprehensive idea of what happened supposedly millions of years ago. Where were you when the earth was formed?
  - nurettin 4y ago
    Man shits on school, books and descends into solipsism after reading about an idea he doesn't favor.
- dylan604 4y ago
  Even the most astute student of science would have to admit that the concept of where life began on Earth isn't proven. It's just a theory. We've seen evidence of evolution, so we know evolution exists. However, there is no second successfully reproduced experiment of Earth to see if the theory is correct. We keep finding potential candidates, but none have proven the theories yet. At this point, the omniscient creator is not any less provable. While it might sound ridiculous, there's no more proof for other ideas. After all, even if you subscribe to the Big Bang, where did all of that mass that went Bang! come from?
- josefx 4y ago
  > Honestly, I think someone needs to ridicule the ridiculous. Imagine thinking that Galileo was pushing a remotely modern model of planetary motion when the Copernican model still had crystal spheres and perfect circles due to lack of several centuries of research into matters like gravity. There where easily observable flaws on both sides of the argument.

nier 4y ago

Thanks for your enlightening comment. This seems to be a well-written article that goes more into depth: https://thonyc.wordpress.com/2014/05/29/galileo-the-church-and-heliocentricity-a-rough-guide/ https://thonyc.wordpress.com/2014/05/29/galileo-the-church-a...

tenpies 4y ago

It's quite interesting to think that this problem persists today - with the modern popes of the modern religions of course.

77pt77 4y ago
And it won't ever go away with social apes.

nurettin 4y ago

I really can't blame the guy. Imagine the evolution vs creationism "debates" of the 21st century and the creationists asking for "the other view" to be represented in public schools when we know for a fact that life and speciation didn't just appear ex-nihilo. Honestly, I think someone needs to ridicule the ridiculous.

positus 4y ago
> we know for a fact that life and speciation didn't just appear ex-nihilo Man takes a few years of school, reads a few books, and thinks he has a comprehensive idea of what happened supposedly millions of years ago. Where were you when the earth was formed?
- nurettin 4y ago
  Man shits on school, books and descends into solipsism after reading about an idea he doesn't favor.
dylan604 4y ago
Even the most astute student of science would have to admit that the concept of where life began on Earth isn't proven. It's just a theory. We've seen evidence of evolution, so we know evolution exists. However, there is no second successfully reproduced experiment of Earth to see if the theory is correct. We keep finding potential candidates, but none have proven the theories yet. At this point, the omniscient creator is not any less provable. While it might sound ridiculous, there's no more proof for other ideas. After all, even if you subscribe to the Big Bang, where did all of that mass that went Bang! come from?
josefx 4y ago
> Honestly, I think someone needs to ridicule the ridiculous. Imagine thinking that Galileo was pushing a remotely modern model of planetary motion when the Copernican model still had crystal spheres and perfect circles due to lack of several centuries of research into matters like gravity. There where easily observable flaws on both sides of the argument.