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Agree GP is an anomaly and will say 15 could be an exaggeration a bit. I don’t know really but iPhone has been around a long time now and people seem to replace

Agree GP is an anomaly and will say 15 could be an exaggeration a bit. I don’t know really but iPhone has been around a long time now and people seem to replace typically every 1-2 years.

pjmlp 4y ago
Not in most European or African countries, majority is on pre-paid, and phones only get replaced when there is an actual reason, not that two years have gone by.
- formerly_proven 4y ago
  ~80 % market share for contracts (post-paid) in Germany: https://www.statista.com/topics/7772/mobile-communications-in-germany/ https://www.statista.com/topics/7772/mobile-communications-i...
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    I said Europe, not Germany.
  - yourusername 4y ago
    I'm on a post paid contract but i haven't had a phone subsidy in a long time. If you want a "free" iphone/android you can lease the phone (effectively it's a personal loan paid back over 2 years).
  - account42 4y ago
    ~75% And post-paid mobile contracts don't mean that the phone is paid for by the contract.
  - distances 4y ago
    Like the others say, I too have a post-paid without a phone. I personally don't know anyone with a bundled phone, because why would you do that? I pay 8€ per month and change the phone whenever I want.
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2000UltraDeluxe 4y ago
15th phone in total, would be fairly average for someone who has had mobile phones for 30 years. I suspect that's what the GP meant. Smartphone adoption is still not anywhere universal and many, many, are still on their first smart phone since a few years back.
- bearmode 4y ago
  He specifically said 15th iphone. iphones have been around for 15 years.
  - conductr 4y ago
    Yeah that was me, and I am talking iPhone. Don't try to overanalyze the "15". There's nothing scientific about it I just made it up and put the tilde in front. Didn't realize it would be the focus of such debate. It could be 10 or 20. Most people I know were early adopters and have replaced every 1-2 years and have also probably broken a couple along the way requiring early replacement. I'm also not claiming my observation is representative of anything other than that, I'm sure it wouldn't match some larger dataset. It's biased by a ton of factors. I was trying to point out 2 things; 1) we've used iphone's since the beginning and are pretty loyal, would likely never consider non iPhone 2) we don't tend to switch apps for "inclusivity" as the original comment parent stated. We blatantly exclude people that are not on the Apple product ecosystem by being rather inflexible to even try the universe of platform agnostic options (WhatsApp, etc). This is my experience in the US. Basically, we're acting like the teenagers except in a not so mean and judgemental way.

Agree GP is an anomaly and will say 15 could be an exaggeration a bit. I don’t know really but iPhone has been around a long time now and people seem to replace typically every 1-2 years.

pjmlp 4y ago

Not in most European or African countries, majority is on pre-paid, and phones only get replaced when there is an actual reason, not that two years have gone by.

formerly_proven 4y ago
~80 % market share for contracts (post-paid) in Germany: https://www.statista.com/topics/7772/mobile-communications-in-germany/ https://www.statista.com/topics/7772/mobile-communications-i...
- pjmlp 4y ago
  I said Europe, not Germany.
- yourusername 4y ago
  I'm on a post paid contract but i haven't had a phone subsidy in a long time. If you want a "free" iphone/android you can lease the phone (effectively it's a personal loan paid back over 2 years).
- account42 4y ago
  ~75% And post-paid mobile contracts don't mean that the phone is paid for by the contract.
- distances 4y ago
  Like the others say, I too have a post-paid without a phone. I personally don't know anyone with a bundled phone, because why would you do that? I pay 8€ per month and change the phone whenever I want.
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2000UltraDeluxe 4y ago

15th phone in total, would be fairly average for someone who has had mobile phones for 30 years. I suspect that's what the GP meant. Smartphone adoption is still not anywhere universal and many, many, are still on their first smart phone since a few years back.

bearmode 4y ago
He specifically said 15th iphone. iphones have been around for 15 years.
- conductr 4y ago
  Yeah that was me, and I am talking iPhone. Don't try to overanalyze the "15". There's nothing scientific about it I just made it up and put the tilde in front. Didn't realize it would be the focus of such debate. It could be 10 or 20. Most people I know were early adopters and have replaced every 1-2 years and have also probably broken a couple along the way requiring early replacement. I'm also not claiming my observation is representative of anything other than that, I'm sure it wouldn't match some larger dataset. It's biased by a ton of factors. I was trying to point out 2 things; 1) we've used iphone's since the beginning and are pretty loyal, would likely never consider non iPhone 2) we don't tend to switch apps for "inclusivity" as the original comment parent stated. We blatantly exclude people that are not on the Apple product ecosystem by being rather inflexible to even try the universe of platform agnostic options (WhatsApp, etc). This is my experience in the US. Basically, we're acting like the teenagers except in a not so mean and judgemental way.