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The numbers speak for themselves. That is obvious. You are not reading what I write. I did not mention skill, I mentioned intelligence. Those are not the same.
by mroman 18y ago
The numbers speak for themselves. That is obvious.
You are not reading what I write. I did not mention skill, I mentioned intelligence. Those are not the same.
It is quite simple. Look at all occupations. There are more non-intellectually demanding jobs than there are intellectually demanding jobs. There are more dumb people than smart people on the planet. That is obvious.
Speaking of market forces, why are programmers on average paid more than marketing and sales people?
You have met stupid programmers? Interesting. I agree that not all are extremely bright, however, anyone who is truly stupid will not be able to even learn how to program, much less become worthy of the title programmer, whereas, I have seen some nearly illiterate folks working in marketing, and sales, and I realize those two are different, even though I do not bother to differentiate between the two when making reference to them.
"Discounting the value of people who aren't like you isn't a very great way to get anywhere in life, especially as an entrepreneur."
Neat, now you are starting the personal attacks.
- jamiequint 18y ago"You are not reading what I write. I did not mention skill, I mentioned intelligence. Those are not the same." Innate skill and intelligence are pretty much the same thing. (Although I would argue that intelligence can grow as a function of effort). "Speaking of market forces, why are programmers on average paid more than marketing and sales people?" The pay of programmers vs. marketers is pretty comparable. Check salary.com "Neat, now you are starting the personal attacks." No, just responding to your multi-post personal attack against marketers/bizdev with one against arrogance. Its up to you whether to take it personally. I have more points I could make, but this doesn't seem to be going anywhere useful so I'm done with this discussion.
- mroman 18y agoInnate skill and intelligence are most definitely NOT, NOT pretty much the same thing. Check an English language dictionary. salary.com? Please. I wrote "on average".
- jamiequint 18y agoOk, fine, lets be precise. First, innate skill is an oxymoron then because "skill" implies that it is learned (see dictionary) and "innate" implies it is not. As far as "on average" goes, where do you think salary.com/payscale.com get their data, averages of real-world salaries.
- mroman 18y ago>First, innate skill is an oxymoron then because "skill" implies that >it is learned Wrong. >(see dictionary) Skill n. 2 a) an art, craft, or science, esp. one involving the use of the hands or body b) ABILITY IN SUCH AN ART, CRAFT, OR SCIENCE ISBN 0-02-860586-1 pg. 1257
- jamiequint 18y agohmmm, well they must have changed their minds then... http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/skill%5B2%5D http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/skill%5B2%5D 1 obsolete : cause , reason 2 a: the ability to use one's knowledge effectively and readily in execution or performance b: dexterity or coordination especially in the execution of learned physical tasks 3: a learned power of doing something competently : a developed aptitude or ability <language skills> (emphasis mine)
- mroman 18y agoOh, I am sure they "changed their minds", when there is no mention of a definition being obsolete or deprecated. Edit: Stalemate?
- jamiequint 18y agosure, cheers
- mroman 18y agocheers