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Unions outside of the US are also full of corruption, at least the 3 that I have information from my family members. One of them was the union representative in
by vasco 4y ago
Unions outside of the US are also full of corruption, at least the 3 that I have information from my family members. One of them was the union representative in their branch, and after a few years left the union altogether after seeing what goes on and that none of the organizers actually care about doing something. In general members extracted extra vacation days that were given to do union work and that's it.
Unions are just like political parties after a while, the people that get involved in them have a particular personality, and pretty much none of them think you should take pride in the quality of your work, it's generally people who are very sour and see only enemies in their work life. Otherwise they'd be doing the work and getting rewarded for it.
- anonyme-honteux 4y agoWhat is strange though is that we hear all the time about unions being sometimes full of corruption, but not about the other political players. Aren't the democratic and the republican party sometimes corrupted? What about the Koch Brothers and the Tobacco companies and the Bitcoin/Blockchain sector and the fossil fuel companies and the alcool companies? What about the tech monopolies? What about everyone that has a political stake in everything? Who decided it was important to associate corruption with the unions and only the unions?
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- vasco 4y ago> Who decided it was important to associate corruption with the unions and only the unions? I literally already compared them to political parties in my comment, this is a strawman.
- anonyme-honteux 4y agoThis is a very common straw man argument against unions and it's indeed not one that you are using. I think we are both right.
- hedora 4y agoIf people were considering voluntarily giving the Koch brothers or Tobacco companies union-like powers over their lives ("mandatory smoke breaks and maga hats for all!"), then I'd be expressing similar concerns.
- anonyme-honteux 4y agoFair enough. Then if was you I would express similar concerns because the Koch brothers and powerful economic players in general have by definition way more power over political decisions - or non decisions - and our lives than the unions. Unions are merely a weak counter power. I'm not even making a negative jugement here, this is just how power works.