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Every time a Google product release makes its way to this site, it seems as though many commenters don't read the article and instead attempt to "dunk on" Googl

Every time a Google product release makes its way to this site, it seems as though many commenters don't read the article and instead attempt to "dunk on" Google for their history of cancelling projects, vying to express how they distrust Google because of their privacy invasiveness or their inability to commit or some anecdotal evidence dealing with support. Same with Meta products. It's an exhausting exercise to attempt to find good-faith discussion of the products being released. While I'm unsure of the market for Starline, I think it presents an interesting alternative to XR-based collaboration: why bother with trying to reinvent the entirety of reality or augment it, when we can insteas capitalize on existing technologies and eke every bit of computw out of them? Who's to say which methodology is 'correct"? The technology alone is impressive. Hopefully this can see wider adoption to find out where it fits in the technological landscape.

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ok_dad 4y ago
It sounds like Google needs to work on their track record, methinks. Why should we talk about and venerate this tech if it's never going to have a chance due to probable cancellation? Can anyone inside or outside Google guarantee that the owner of this product isn't going to dump it as soon as it's ready for commercialization to start a new project for their career enhancement? I have not seen a single Google exec take on the hard question of "Why does Google cancel stuff so much? How can we trust you?" and answer it, or even try to answer it. All we have is their track record of shuttering products!! It's exhausting trying to have a good-faith discussion with someone you know is an unfaithful actor. We get all excited about some new stuff Google develops, then months or years later it evaporates with zero support and no warning.
- quantumquetzal 4y ago
  By no means am I arguing the notion that their track record of supporting products (especially hardware) is good, especially when compared to other participants in the space. It is poor, I think most of us have heard that at least once by now. At the same time, nobody has to venerate anything in these threads either. Positive and negative discussion should be encouraged. But merely stating that "it's gonna be cancelled, place your bets" (as many of the comments at the bottom of this thread do) does not constitute meaningful or intellectually-stimulating conversation, and we as a community should strive to do better than that.
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chaostheory 4y ago
You have a good point. My theory as to why a lot of people assume that Google will simply cancel something isn’t just because Google has cancelled a lot of products because other companies do the same. The reasons are because 1. Google kills products and services rather quickly compared to their peers, 2. Until Stadia, Google never refunded the cost of their product unlike say Amazon with their product experiments, 3. Building on point 2, Google has had fire sales 1 month before a product cancellation announcement without refunds. I was personally burned by this and it does the opposite of building good will, and 4. These product cancellations have directly affected everyone who is now wary of Google starting with Google Reader users. The most disappointing soft cancellation of all was Google Fiber. This tc article sums it up really well https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/01/stadia-died-because-no-one-trusts-google/ https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/01/stadia-died-because-no-one...

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ok_dad 4y ago

It sounds like Google needs to work on their track record, methinks. Why should we talk about and venerate this tech if it's never going to have a chance due to probable cancellation? Can anyone inside or outside Google guarantee that the owner of this product isn't going to dump it as soon as it's ready for commercialization to start a new project for their career enhancement? I have not seen a single Google exec take on the hard question of "Why does Google cancel stuff so much? How can we trust you?" and answer it, or even try to answer it. All we have is their track record of shuttering products!! It's exhausting trying to have a good-faith discussion with someone you know is an unfaithful actor. We get all excited about some new stuff Google develops, then months or years later it evaporates with zero support and no warning.

quantumquetzal 4y ago
By no means am I arguing the notion that their track record of supporting products (especially hardware) is good, especially when compared to other participants in the space. It is poor, I think most of us have heard that at least once by now. At the same time, nobody has to venerate anything in these threads either. Positive and negative discussion should be encouraged. But merely stating that "it's gonna be cancelled, place your bets" (as many of the comments at the bottom of this thread do) does not constitute meaningful or intellectually-stimulating conversation, and we as a community should strive to do better than that.
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chaostheory 4y ago

You have a good point. My theory as to why a lot of people assume that Google will simply cancel something isn’t just because Google has cancelled a lot of products because other companies do the same. The reasons are because 1. Google kills products and services rather quickly compared to their peers, 2. Until Stadia, Google never refunded the cost of their product unlike say Amazon with their product experiments, 3. Building on point 2, Google has had fire sales 1 month before a product cancellation announcement without refunds. I was personally burned by this and it does the opposite of building good will, and 4. These product cancellations have directly affected everyone who is now wary of Google starting with Google Reader users. The most disappointing soft cancellation of all was Google Fiber. This tc article sums it up really well https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/01/stadia-died-because-no-one-trusts-google/ https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/01/stadia-died-because-no-one...