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Have you tried a Pixel? I've been happily using them for years.

gjsman-1000 4y ago
Pixels have unusually high rates of hardware and software problems over time. The reliability isn't there. The current issue of the month is random failure to call emergency services. If you randomly experience this problem, you could call 911 over and over, dozens of times, without success. It also doesn't matter if you have 4/4 bars. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32713375 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32713375 https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/y039zn/i_compiled_all_the_pixel_911emergency_call/ https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/y039zn/i_compi... https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/rfld6m/comment/hoix3j7/?context=999 https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/rfld6m/comment... https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/x5ea32/life_and_death_down_to_a_software_glitch/ https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/x5ea32/life_an... https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/wpirx8/had_an_emergency_pixel_6a_would_not_dial_000/ https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/wpirx8/had_an_... https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/v1enh5/cannot_dial_911_from_my_pixel_6_trying_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/v1enh5/cannot_... https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/176875269/why-wouldn-t-my-pixel-6-call-and-connect-to-911?hl=en https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/176875269/why-w...
- sosodev 4y ago
  I don't know why you're being downvoted. They most certainly have had historically poor build quality. My Pixel 2 began boot looping after a couple of years of use and apparently that was motherboard quality issue that had been around since the Nexus line. I got a replacement and it happened again after another few months. Google "Pixel 2 bootloop" and you'll find thousands of threads from people with this issue. That was around four years ago. I switched to an iPhone 11 and have had a fraction of the problems that I had with Android phones.
  - LocalPCGuy 4y ago
    Because of the insistence on anecdotes rather than actual industry reports to back up the claim. Even your claim is your personal anecdote. But when you dive into actual industry repair reports, Pixels do not (at least in the ones I've looked at) stand up in terms of being "historically poor quality". For every anecdote of someone having an issue, there are a large majority that just use their phone day in and day out without a problem. And of course, there's also that person that has to point out that their Pixel is working just fine in response to the person with an issue. I'm not trying to dismiss the issues Google has had. Just to put it in context that they get a lot of press about the issues they do have, and so there becomes an impression that it's historically bad when the actual numbers do not seem to show that to be the case. (Also, if anyone provides links to 2021 or newer reports, I'd be happy to revise my opinion here based on new data, if it shows that I'm no longer correct, as it's been a bit since the last report I saw.)
    - sosodev 4y ago
      Can you link said industry repair report? I've not heard of such a thing. I know you want to write my experience off as "bad luck" but I had several high-end Android phones with serious hardware and/or software issues before I made the switch. I really wanted to like Android but I also want a phone that works. :/
      - LocalPCGuy 4y ago
        I am not writing off your experience. I am saying, that while your experience is valid for you, it cannot be extrapolated industry wide. For the report, I don't have a link handy. I looked into this in the past and was able to find a few different reports of that nature. I haven't looked for one in the last year or two, so like I said in another comment, if things have changed and what I read is out of date now, I'd be happy to have an update as well.
- LocalPCGuy 4y ago
  Pixels may have what seems to be an unusually high rate of problems over time if you judge things by anecdotes on Reddit. There are many more folks just puttering away on their Pixel oblivious that there are any issues at all (or even posting their own anecdotes in response to the anecdotes about problems telling folks that their Pixel is fine). But they don't generally show up leading the pack in industry reports from the folks repairing phones, at least the ones I've looked at. Every manufacturer has some level of issues, Google sure seems to be about average. I will say that their insistence on automated (read: poor) support can sometimes exasperate problems (which then leads to more anecdotes being posted).
jameal 4y ago
I'm still using a first generation Pixel XL I bought refurbished many years ago. Battery life ain't great but it does what I need it to do.
2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
I've had Nexus 4->6 and Pixel 1->4. I don't understand the complaints about Android phones not working. With that said I wish I didn't have to choose between surveillance device Pixels or walled garden iPhones.
- hparadiz 4y ago
  Have you tried a Sony phone?
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Pixels have unusually high rates of hardware and software problems over time. The reliability isn't there. The current issue of the month is random failure to call emergency services. If you randomly experience this problem, you could call 911 over and over, dozens of times, without success. It also doesn't matter if you have 4/4 bars. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32713375 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32713375 https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/y039zn/i_compiled_all_the_pixel_911emergency_call/ https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/y039zn/i_compi... https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/rfld6m/comment/hoix3j7/?context=999 https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/rfld6m/comment... https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/x5ea32/life_and_death_down_to_a_software_glitch/ https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/x5ea32/life_an... https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/wpirx8/had_an_emergency_pixel_6a_would_not_dial_000/ https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/wpirx8/had_an_... https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/v1enh5/cannot_dial_911_from_my_pixel_6_trying_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/v1enh5/cannot_... https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/176875269/why-wouldn-t-my-pixel-6-call-and-connect-to-911?hl=en https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/176875269/why-w...

sosodev 4y ago
I don't know why you're being downvoted. They most certainly have had historically poor build quality. My Pixel 2 began boot looping after a couple of years of use and apparently that was motherboard quality issue that had been around since the Nexus line. I got a replacement and it happened again after another few months. Google "Pixel 2 bootloop" and you'll find thousands of threads from people with this issue. That was around four years ago. I switched to an iPhone 11 and have had a fraction of the problems that I had with Android phones.
- LocalPCGuy 4y ago
  Because of the insistence on anecdotes rather than actual industry reports to back up the claim. Even your claim is your personal anecdote. But when you dive into actual industry repair reports, Pixels do not (at least in the ones I've looked at) stand up in terms of being "historically poor quality". For every anecdote of someone having an issue, there are a large majority that just use their phone day in and day out without a problem. And of course, there's also that person that has to point out that their Pixel is working just fine in response to the person with an issue. I'm not trying to dismiss the issues Google has had. Just to put it in context that they get a lot of press about the issues they do have, and so there becomes an impression that it's historically bad when the actual numbers do not seem to show that to be the case. (Also, if anyone provides links to 2021 or newer reports, I'd be happy to revise my opinion here based on new data, if it shows that I'm no longer correct, as it's been a bit since the last report I saw.)
  - sosodev 4y ago
    Can you link said industry repair report? I've not heard of such a thing. I know you want to write my experience off as "bad luck" but I had several high-end Android phones with serious hardware and/or software issues before I made the switch. I really wanted to like Android but I also want a phone that works. :/
    - LocalPCGuy 4y ago
      I am not writing off your experience. I am saying, that while your experience is valid for you, it cannot be extrapolated industry wide. For the report, I don't have a link handy. I looked into this in the past and was able to find a few different reports of that nature. I haven't looked for one in the last year or two, so like I said in another comment, if things have changed and what I read is out of date now, I'd be happy to have an update as well.
LocalPCGuy 4y ago
Pixels may have what seems to be an unusually high rate of problems over time if you judge things by anecdotes on Reddit. There are many more folks just puttering away on their Pixel oblivious that there are any issues at all (or even posting their own anecdotes in response to the anecdotes about problems telling folks that their Pixel is fine). But they don't generally show up leading the pack in industry reports from the folks repairing phones, at least the ones I've looked at. Every manufacturer has some level of issues, Google sure seems to be about average. I will say that their insistence on automated (read: poor) support can sometimes exasperate problems (which then leads to more anecdotes being posted).

jameal 4y ago

I'm still using a first generation Pixel XL I bought refurbished many years ago. Battery life ain't great but it does what I need it to do.

2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago

I've had Nexus 4->6 and Pixel 1->4. I don't understand the complaints about Android phones not working. With that said I wish I didn't have to choose between surveillance device Pixels or walled garden iPhones.

hparadiz 4y ago
Have you tried a Sony phone?
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