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I'm struggling to believe Google will see this through beyond a tech demo. And who's the target audience? I mean, what would a unit's cost be? Looks like anothe

I'm struggling to believe Google will see this through beyond a tech demo. And who's the target audience? I mean, what would a unit's cost be? Looks like another cool tech Google won't be able to productize successfully. Edit: I was super excited for Soli way back when, but so far haven't see any smart clothes they were imagining in the early days.

xnx 4y ago
Soli did seem cool. Wasn't Jacquard the smart clothing technology? Surprisingly, I think there are some products: https://atap.google.com/jacquard/products/ https://atap.google.com/jacquard/products/
- FeistySkink 4y ago
  I couldn't find either jackets for sale (broken links), and the promo videos were rather underwhelming. Seems like a smart watch can already do all of these, albeit in a less "cool" manner, and it's not tied to a piece of clothing. I was imagining something more cyberpunk, and not just an input device. Perhaps, that goes beyond what Soli tries to achieve. Edit: I can imagine more interesting use cases where you can't use precise input, for example when wearing gloves (construction, space suite, etc.).
- kaycebasques 4y ago
  Nest is doing some cool stuff with Soli on their hubs to monitor sleep patterns: https://www.xda-developers.com/google-nest-hub-soli-motion https://www.xda-developers.com/google-nest-hub-soli-motion Disclosure: I work on Fuchsia which is now the OS for some of the Nest hubs (https://9to5google.com/2022/06/23/google-fuchsia-nest-hub-max/ https://9to5google.com/2022/06/23/google-fuchsia-nest-hub-ma...)
hammock 4y ago
Can I say that a Magic Window in my office sounds 1000x better than a magic headset that I have to wear (Meta Quest 2)
- FeistySkink 4y ago
  It does. And so does a hologram. But it remains to be seen if Google can see a tech demo through, make a profitable product, and support it past the initial hype. I hope this time it does, but I wouldn't bet on it.
  - hammock 4y ago
    Who cares? Why is every comment in this thread about how they hate google ventures? Can’t we discuss the idea itself?
    - lm28469 4y ago
      > Why is every comment in this thread about how they hate google ventures? Because every products they make that isn't collecting data to build their advertising profiles or display ads ends up in the graveyard after a few months/years
      - hammock 4y ago
        Google doesn’t have to be the one to build the magic window. It could be one of us here. Let’s discuss the merits of the idea, not Google’s reputation. Then maybe go and copy it in an environment where it won’t get killed by a corporate overlord
alphabetting 4y ago
I think you'd see this with some c-suites types or VCs who have money to throw around and possibly designers who want to give better sense of prototypes to colleagues from afar
vermilingua 4y ago
One audience may be courts. A great deal of time, effort, and money goes into high-quality telepresence (at least in my area) for offenders who cannot attend court (due to COVID, the nature of their offense, etc). As other commenters have mentioned in this thread, there are lots of unconscious (and fully conscious) biases against interaction over video conference, and a key function of the courts is to eliminate bias from the judicial system. This, obviously, is much less "sexy" than slick co-working and corporate spaces, so Google doesn't advertise it; but I would be surprised if courts weren't one of the early adopters if this technology becomes commercially viable.
- iudqnolq 4y ago
  > A great deal of time, effort, and money goes into high-quality telepresence (at least in my area) for offenders who cannot attend court (due to COVID, the nature of their offense, etc). Interestingly this is the exact opposite of what I've heard: Prisoners are sat in front of low-quality cameras that barely work on a good day, and have a hard time comprehending what's said and being comprehended. "Luckily", that's usually not necessarily in our current system. If you're comfortable do you mind sharing what court you're talking about?
  - vermilingua 4y ago
    I've done a fair bit of work in various courts, prisons, and police stations in NSW (Australia). All (where remote court hearings are performed) have pretty professional Webex setups for dialing in, and there are projects underway to improve this further with dedicated studio booths with active and passive noise cancellation. It's possible that NSW is the anomaly here, but I suspect that it holds true at least Australia wide, and in some areas abroad.
    - iudqnolq 4y ago
      Whoops, I assumed that America is the default again.
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xnx 4y ago

Soli did seem cool. Wasn't Jacquard the smart clothing technology? Surprisingly, I think there are some products: https://atap.google.com/jacquard/products/ https://atap.google.com/jacquard/products/

FeistySkink 4y ago
I couldn't find either jackets for sale (broken links), and the promo videos were rather underwhelming. Seems like a smart watch can already do all of these, albeit in a less "cool" manner, and it's not tied to a piece of clothing. I was imagining something more cyberpunk, and not just an input device. Perhaps, that goes beyond what Soli tries to achieve. Edit: I can imagine more interesting use cases where you can't use precise input, for example when wearing gloves (construction, space suite, etc.).
kaycebasques 4y ago
Nest is doing some cool stuff with Soli on their hubs to monitor sleep patterns: https://www.xda-developers.com/google-nest-hub-soli-motion https://www.xda-developers.com/google-nest-hub-soli-motion Disclosure: I work on Fuchsia which is now the OS for some of the Nest hubs (https://9to5google.com/2022/06/23/google-fuchsia-nest-hub-max/ https://9to5google.com/2022/06/23/google-fuchsia-nest-hub-ma...)

hammock 4y ago

Can I say that a Magic Window in my office sounds 1000x better than a magic headset that I have to wear (Meta Quest 2)

FeistySkink 4y ago
It does. And so does a hologram. But it remains to be seen if Google can see a tech demo through, make a profitable product, and support it past the initial hype. I hope this time it does, but I wouldn't bet on it.
- hammock 4y ago
  Who cares? Why is every comment in this thread about how they hate google ventures? Can’t we discuss the idea itself?
  - lm28469 4y ago
    > Why is every comment in this thread about how they hate google ventures? Because every products they make that isn't collecting data to build their advertising profiles or display ads ends up in the graveyard after a few months/years
    - hammock 4y ago
      Google doesn’t have to be the one to build the magic window. It could be one of us here. Let’s discuss the merits of the idea, not Google’s reputation. Then maybe go and copy it in an environment where it won’t get killed by a corporate overlord

alphabetting 4y ago

I think you'd see this with some c-suites types or VCs who have money to throw around and possibly designers who want to give better sense of prototypes to colleagues from afar

vermilingua 4y ago

One audience may be courts. A great deal of time, effort, and money goes into high-quality telepresence (at least in my area) for offenders who cannot attend court (due to COVID, the nature of their offense, etc). As other commenters have mentioned in this thread, there are lots of unconscious (and fully conscious) biases against interaction over video conference, and a key function of the courts is to eliminate bias from the judicial system. This, obviously, is much less "sexy" than slick co-working and corporate spaces, so Google doesn't advertise it; but I would be surprised if courts weren't one of the early adopters if this technology becomes commercially viable.

iudqnolq 4y ago
> A great deal of time, effort, and money goes into high-quality telepresence (at least in my area) for offenders who cannot attend court (due to COVID, the nature of their offense, etc). Interestingly this is the exact opposite of what I've heard: Prisoners are sat in front of low-quality cameras that barely work on a good day, and have a hard time comprehending what's said and being comprehended. "Luckily", that's usually not necessarily in our current system. If you're comfortable do you mind sharing what court you're talking about?
- vermilingua 4y ago
  I've done a fair bit of work in various courts, prisons, and police stations in NSW (Australia). All (where remote court hearings are performed) have pretty professional Webex setups for dialing in, and there are projects underway to improve this further with dedicated studio booths with active and passive noise cancellation. It's possible that NSW is the anomaly here, but I suspect that it holds true at least Australia wide, and in some areas abroad.
  - iudqnolq 4y ago
    Whoops, I assumed that America is the default again.

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