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Only reason its not encrypted is because Apple won't allow it to be.

• gleenn 4y ago
  Citation needed. Is this really true? I keep hearing about RCS etc but I also keep hearing it's not actually a good standard. Not even sure it does encryption frankly.
  • iamthirsty 4y ago
    You haven't looked that much into it then; RCS has encryption[0], and works great for me. (I have an iPhone 13 Pro & a Pixel 6 Pro. RCS works as well as iMessage for Android-to-Android devices, for me.) [0]: https://www.gstatic.com/messages/papers/messages_e2ee.pdf https://www.gstatic.com/messages/papers/messages_e2ee.pdf
    • threatofrain 4y ago
      Is that RCS having encryption or is that Google providing an extension to RCS only with their Messages app? And to what degree does RCS with encryption have buy-in from American carriers?
      • iamthirsty 4y ago
        RCS is an open source protocol that can be run by different 'operators'[0]. So it's not so much as an extension, as Google's implementation of the protocol (which is open source and can be added by other operators). [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Communication_Services https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Communication_Services
        • kaba0 4y ago
          Sounds like whatever remained from Google Reader’s API.
        • sbuk 4y ago
          > RCS is an open source protocol No, no it isn't.
  • est31 4y ago
    There is nobody preventing Apple from developing an Android app for iMessage. They already have a bunch of apps on the play store, including one for Apple TV, Beats, and a migration app for iOS. https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Apple https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Apple
    • Retric 4y ago
      Apple can’t provide the same assurance that an android app is secured. The degree that matters is of course debatable, but it is one of their talking points.
      • hatsix 4y ago
        Apple can't provide assurance that browsers are secured, but they allow for iMessage in browsers.
        • Retric 4y ago
          Last I checked you can’t send an iMessage from a windows browser only read messages you had personally uploaded to iCloud. Presumably they run security tests on 3rd party Mac browsers, it’s a major security concern.
    • bell-cot 4y ago
      Nobody really preventing GM from developing OnStar systems for Ford, Toyota, VW, etc. cars, either.
      • conductr 4y ago
        My power tools have proprietary battery's too. I buy the same brand over and over because of owning batteries already. This type of stuff is just business 101 and it’s not exactly meant to be in anyone but the company’s best interest. It can be seen in almost all industries.
    • GeekyBear 4y ago
  • spacedcowboy 4y ago
    RCS (as in: the standardized version) isn’t encrypted. Google’s proprietary extensions to RCS provide the encryption layer [1] [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Communication_Services https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Communication_Services
  • Alupis 4y ago
    It's the same old story of perfect being the enemy of good (plus clear ulterior motives for Apple). Adding RCS compatibility would negatively impact precisely zero iPhone users, and would positively impact literally everyone (including iPhone users!). RCS may have its warts, but I do not see Apple proposing a better standard? Everyone agrees SMS/MMS is about as bad as it can be... and there's already a lot of industry buy-in outside of Apple for supporting RCS. Get with the program Apple...
    • fyvhbhn 4y ago
      Visit matrix.org for a better standard
  • camhart 4y ago
    > https://www.android.com/get-the-message/ https://www.android.com/get-the-message/ RCS is supported by most carriers, and over 500 device manufacturers. But not Apple.
    • sbuk 4y ago
      *Only in the US. It has some adoption outside the US.