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I think the poster has misidentified most people defending Jones in this thread as fans when they are more likely free speech absolutists who believe any govern

by lovich 4y ago

I think the poster has misidentified most people defending Jones in this thread as fans when they are more likely free speech absolutists who believe any government sanctioned consequence for speech is immoral. They’d likely defend anyone who received a punishment for this type of behavior, Alex Jones just happens to be the man of the hour

p1necone 4y ago
I am yet to see a "free speech absolutist" defend anyone on the left (where's the outrage about Republican school districts banning books?). It just seems to be a convenient excuse for being friendly with fascists.
- lovich 4y ago
  You’ve got a fair point although I will play devils advocate at you can find them occasionally in deep corners of the internet like /r/libertarianUncensored, and even there they aren’t the majority
- 0xbadc0de5 4y ago
  I haven't heard of that - could you describe the books being removed from schools? Are they still teaching books like 1984, Brave New World and Animal Farm?
  - lovich 4y ago
    Book bans are on the rise across the US[1], in blue and red states. In blue states it tends to be books like to “kill a mockingbird”, “huckleberry Finn”, or other books with racially charged language. In red states they say they are removing “CRT”, and “pornographic” or “sexual content”, but their definition of sexual and porn includes any mention of homosexualities existence and their definition of CRT includes any mention of minorities having been oppressed at any point in time. It’s kind of a shit show all over [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/30/books/book-ban-us-schools.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/30/books/book-ban-us-schools...
- andrewclunn 4y ago
  Individuals being allowed to say / write what they want versus school boards prohibiting certain texts from being taught or distributed as part of their curriculum... maybe they just understand what "free speech" means?

by lovich 4y ago

p1necone 4y ago

I am yet to see a "free speech absolutist" defend anyone on the left (where's the outrage about Republican school districts banning books?). It just seems to be a convenient excuse for being friendly with fascists.

lovich 4y ago
You’ve got a fair point although I will play devils advocate at you can find them occasionally in deep corners of the internet like /r/libertarianUncensored, and even there they aren’t the majority
0xbadc0de5 4y ago
I haven't heard of that - could you describe the books being removed from schools? Are they still teaching books like 1984, Brave New World and Animal Farm?
- lovich 4y ago
  Book bans are on the rise across the US[1], in blue and red states. In blue states it tends to be books like to “kill a mockingbird”, “huckleberry Finn”, or other books with racially charged language. In red states they say they are removing “CRT”, and “pornographic” or “sexual content”, but their definition of sexual and porn includes any mention of homosexualities existence and their definition of CRT includes any mention of minorities having been oppressed at any point in time. It’s kind of a shit show all over [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/30/books/book-ban-us-schools.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/30/books/book-ban-us-schools...
andrewclunn 4y ago
Individuals being allowed to say / write what they want versus school boards prohibiting certain texts from being taught or distributed as part of their curriculum... maybe they just understand what "free speech" means?