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The network effect of signal not being a hub for SMS and e2ee will mean less people using e2ee, IMO.
by monetus 4y ago
The network effect of signal not being a hub for SMS and e2ee will mean less people using e2ee, IMO.
- dodgerdan 4y agoA few years ago I would have agreed, but right now Signal is doing just fine taking users from WhatsApp (FB TOS changes + ads + social group analysis)and Telegram (sketchy non-e2ee, Russian owned, based in the middle east).
- monetus 4y agoWeird, I am in the southeast U.S. and telegram is eating signal's lunch in the social networks here.
- dodgerdan 4y agoIt’s a big pie, they’re also fairly different. And to be honest it’s only a matter of time before Telegram has a (public) security incident that drives much more people to E2EE messaging.
- monetus 4y agoI'm curious how long it will be before that public incident - they rolled their own cryptography right? With that, I would imagine that if it hasn't been pwned yet, then there would be a disproportionate amount of people trying to break it.
- brational 4y agoRolled their own and off by default.
- stirfish 4y agoWhat people are concerned enough about a Terms of Service change to leave Whatsapp, but struggle with the unlocked icon next to "Insecure SMS" in Signal? What people know that Telegram isn't end-to-end encrypted, but think SMS is?
- NoGravitas 4y agoYeah, I think this is more likely to be the case. People who don't understand encryption but used Signal as their SMS messenger were at least getting opportunistic encryption with any of their contacts who were using Signal. Now they'll probably just uninstall it (like every iOS Signal user I've ever known).