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Yeah, I'll just tell the gas company, electric company, internet provider, my bank, my elderly neighbor who can barely use a phone and I taught how to text, eve

Yeah, I'll just tell the gas company, electric company, internet provider, my bank, my elderly neighbor who can barely use a phone and I taught how to text, every restaurant I order online from, the plumber I just texted literally an hour ago due to a pipe leaking to just... not use SMS. I'm sure they'll listen. I assume you live in a place where SMS isn't necessary? In the U.S. it is.

bobmaxup 4y ago
I think the parent was stating that it doesn't have to be that way, and that things could be better without SMS and 10DLC.
dheera 4y ago
> gas company, electric company, Mine don't need SMS > internet provider, Also doesn't need SMS for me > my bank, F them, I use a throwaway Twilio number for this > my elderly neighbor who can barely use a phone and I taught how to text, I tell them to either e-mail me or stick a handwritten note on my door. E-mail is WAY easier to use for elderly people in my experience. You get nice big keyboards, big fonts, big screens, and it works on any device you own, not just one. But if they disagree they can still handwrite a note to me > every restaurant I order online from, I use a fake number for these. They don't need my number any more than I need their wait staff's phone numbers. Never been a problem. I just go pick up and say my name, no SMS bullshit. > the plumber I just texted literally an hour ago I don't text plumbers, I e-mail or call them
- garciansmith 4y ago
  > gas company, electric company, Especially when there are issues that's how mine send updates. To say nothing about companies that require 2FA through text! > bank I can't use VOIP numbers with them, not sure about Twilio. > my elderly neighbor who can barely use a phone and I taught how to text You make the assumption that they even have a computer: they do not. They do normally just knock on my door, but they want to send and receive pictures to their family and other people who do not live close by. > every restaurant I order online from I want to know when my order is ready. > the plumber I just texted literally an hour ago He asked for a picture of the leak and to text it to him. He's reliable and has done good work before, I'm not going to switch just because he doesn't use email. My point in all of this is that in the U.S. SMS is ubiquitous. As much as I would love to leave it behind, there are just so many situations where you need SMS.
  - dheera 4y ago
    > where you need SMS Honestly not really, in the US. You can usually find ways around it if you tell the business that you don't have SMS. With governments I don't think they can legally require you to have SMS. When they find out it's incredibly difficult to deal with you because of the design choices they made, it helps dethrone SMS, one business at a time. Vote with your behavior. Make them realize they made a bad choice by picking SMS.

bobmaxup 4y ago

I think the parent was stating that it doesn't have to be that way, and that things could be better without SMS and 10DLC.

dheera 4y ago

> gas company, electric company, Mine don't need SMS > internet provider, Also doesn't need SMS for me > my bank, F them, I use a throwaway Twilio number for this > my elderly neighbor who can barely use a phone and I taught how to text, I tell them to either e-mail me or stick a handwritten note on my door. E-mail is WAY easier to use for elderly people in my experience. You get nice big keyboards, big fonts, big screens, and it works on any device you own, not just one. But if they disagree they can still handwrite a note to me > every restaurant I order online from, I use a fake number for these. They don't need my number any more than I need their wait staff's phone numbers. Never been a problem. I just go pick up and say my name, no SMS bullshit. > the plumber I just texted literally an hour ago I don't text plumbers, I e-mail or call them

garciansmith 4y ago
> gas company, electric company, Especially when there are issues that's how mine send updates. To say nothing about companies that require 2FA through text! > bank I can't use VOIP numbers with them, not sure about Twilio. > my elderly neighbor who can barely use a phone and I taught how to text You make the assumption that they even have a computer: they do not. They do normally just knock on my door, but they want to send and receive pictures to their family and other people who do not live close by. > every restaurant I order online from I want to know when my order is ready. > the plumber I just texted literally an hour ago He asked for a picture of the leak and to text it to him. He's reliable and has done good work before, I'm not going to switch just because he doesn't use email. My point in all of this is that in the U.S. SMS is ubiquitous. As much as I would love to leave it behind, there are just so many situations where you need SMS.
- dheera 4y ago
  > where you need SMS Honestly not really, in the US. You can usually find ways around it if you tell the business that you don't have SMS. With governments I don't think they can legally require you to have SMS. When they find out it's incredibly difficult to deal with you because of the design choices they made, it helps dethrone SMS, one business at a time. Vote with your behavior. Make them realize they made a bad choice by picking SMS.