4 ms·

This was one of the core features of using Signal for me. I wish they had implemented RCS and more features for SMS instead of removing it. I'm very disappointe

This was one of the core features of using Signal for me. I wish they had implemented RCS and more features for SMS instead of removing it. I'm very disappointed with this feature. As a side note, I'm on the beta, and recently got "Signal Stories". This immensely annoyed me, and had to dig through to remove it (since it wasn't obvious). After the whole crypto thing and these decisions, it might be time to find another secure messaging app.

gophin 4y ago
Are there any Android apps that support RCS other than Google Messages? I'm not sure exactly what is exposed in the framework API regarding RCS, and how it compares to the relative ease of receiving SMS and MMS messages.
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
pitaj 4y ago
They can't implement RCS, because there's no Android API for it.
- pornel 4y ago
  Because it's a carrier-owned upsell feature. It's nuts that people even consider a non-Internet protocol that applications can't implement, and users have to get permission to use — from the same carriers that charge for bytes of crappy size-limited MMS messages in the same ballpark as delivery of physical letters.
  - ece 4y ago
    SMS is carrier owned and had an API. What you're saying doesn't surprise me, but I guess an RCS client written by Google and can't talk to iPhones isn't exactly an upsell.
    - empyrrhicist 4y ago
      That relied on carrier infrastructure though - RCS doesn't require a cell connection.
      - ece 4y ago
        Yeah, I don't know what the Google/Jibe/carrier relationships are, but Google made an exception for Samsung[1], which I suppose could've been carrier approved too. Looking more at it, it seems like Google Messages is still the RCS client, and it's exposing messages to Samsung's app. Honestly, it's kind of hard to blame Signal and/or Google if carriers are involved here. I mostly use Signal and Element, so if those two had a single client, that'd be fine. But, I think Signal probably still favors a centralized system, and they have added ongoing call transfers from and to mobile/desktop, and now Stories and the money transfer (not a fan), so I suppose it's up to the users to choose. [1] https://www.sammobile.com/news/google-messages-rcs-integration-samsung-continuity/ https://www.sammobile.com/news/google-messages-rcs-integrati...
- empyrrhicist 4y ago
  It seems like that should be an antitrust issue (as should I message).

gophin 4y ago

Are there any Android apps that support RCS other than Google Messages? I'm not sure exactly what is exposed in the framework API regarding RCS, and how it compares to the relative ease of receiving SMS and MMS messages.

deleted 4y ago
[deleted]

pitaj 4y ago

They can't implement RCS, because there's no Android API for it.

pornel 4y ago
Because it's a carrier-owned upsell feature. It's nuts that people even consider a non-Internet protocol that applications can't implement, and users have to get permission to use — from the same carriers that charge for bytes of crappy size-limited MMS messages in the same ballpark as delivery of physical letters.
- ece 4y ago
  SMS is carrier owned and had an API. What you're saying doesn't surprise me, but I guess an RCS client written by Google and can't talk to iPhones isn't exactly an upsell.
  - empyrrhicist 4y ago
    That relied on carrier infrastructure though - RCS doesn't require a cell connection.
    - ece 4y ago
      Yeah, I don't know what the Google/Jibe/carrier relationships are, but Google made an exception for Samsung[1], which I suppose could've been carrier approved too. Looking more at it, it seems like Google Messages is still the RCS client, and it's exposing messages to Samsung's app. Honestly, it's kind of hard to blame Signal and/or Google if carriers are involved here. I mostly use Signal and Element, so if those two had a single client, that'd be fine. But, I think Signal probably still favors a centralized system, and they have added ongoing call transfers from and to mobile/desktop, and now Stories and the money transfer (not a fan), so I suppose it's up to the users to choose. [1] https://www.sammobile.com/news/google-messages-rcs-integration-samsung-continuity/ https://www.sammobile.com/news/google-messages-rcs-integrati...
empyrrhicist 4y ago
It seems like that should be an antitrust issue (as should I message).