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The narrative that 'people vote with their wallets' get pushed around a lot on this forum but I fear it is often disingenuous to the nuances of a given situatio

The narrative that 'people vote with their wallets' get pushed around a lot on this forum but I fear it is often disingenuous to the nuances of a given situation. I can't really cast meaningful votes with a lot of items because I'm still at the mercy of what is manufactured and readily available. Despite not wanting a touch screen and only a barebones car, nobody is going to make one. Thus I'm left with a few options I don't like, one of which I have to take. To be clear I don't think the wallet-vote narrative is completely wrong-I just think consumers have less voting power than everyone thinks they do (in this narrative)

Aunche 4y ago
> Despite not wanting a touch screen and only a barebones car, nobody is going to make one. This isn't a great example because the government mandates all cars have a back up camera, so given the real estate that takes in the center console, you might as well make it a touch screen and outsource some functionality to it. Mazda cars probably come closest to what you're looking for though.
jcampbell1 4y ago
Tropicana, which was owned by Pepsi at the time, gained significant market share when they switched from paper cartons to plastic bottles. It was in the glossy annual report, but I can’t remember what year. The real culprit for all the clear plastic was the anti-landfill environmental movement that deceived the public that plastic can be recycled in an environmentally beneficial way. I suspect this lie was backed by the manufacturers. The other environmental scam brewing is how hard the oil and gas industry are secretly and falsely pushing hydrogen as a solution to carbon emissions. They are salivating at the idea of federally funded pipelines and know hydrogen from methane is going to be the cheapest source for decades. The backup camera thing was regulation announced in 2002, with more than decade allowed to implement. The reason was because about 25 kids per year were being backed over and killed, often by their parents.
hcarvalhoalves 4y ago
> Despite not wanting a touch screen and only a barebones car, nobody is going to make one. Thus I'm left with a few options I don't like, one of which I have to take. You’re not a victim. Don’t buy, or buy products you value second hand. I have a 2015 notebook that I can repair and still works great, an older car I can repair and works great, a 2009 professional camera that works great with lenses from 1970, etc.

Aunche 4y ago

> Despite not wanting a touch screen and only a barebones car, nobody is going to make one. This isn't a great example because the government mandates all cars have a back up camera, so given the real estate that takes in the center console, you might as well make it a touch screen and outsource some functionality to it. Mazda cars probably come closest to what you're looking for though.

jcampbell1 4y ago

Tropicana, which was owned by Pepsi at the time, gained significant market share when they switched from paper cartons to plastic bottles. It was in the glossy annual report, but I can’t remember what year. The real culprit for all the clear plastic was the anti-landfill environmental movement that deceived the public that plastic can be recycled in an environmentally beneficial way. I suspect this lie was backed by the manufacturers. The other environmental scam brewing is how hard the oil and gas industry are secretly and falsely pushing hydrogen as a solution to carbon emissions. They are salivating at the idea of federally funded pipelines and know hydrogen from methane is going to be the cheapest source for decades. The backup camera thing was regulation announced in 2002, with more than decade allowed to implement. The reason was because about 25 kids per year were being backed over and killed, often by their parents.

hcarvalhoalves 4y ago

> Despite not wanting a touch screen and only a barebones car, nobody is going to make one. Thus I'm left with a few options I don't like, one of which I have to take. You’re not a victim. Don’t buy, or buy products you value second hand. I have a 2015 notebook that I can repair and still works great, an older car I can repair and works great, a 2009 professional camera that works great with lenses from 1970, etc.