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> Or is it that because of this bias fewer women end up in prison? That's well documented [0]. Money quote: "In the United States men are most adversely affect

> Or is it that because of this bias fewer women end up in prison? That's well documented [0]. Money quote: "In the United States men are most adversely affected by sentencing disparity being twice as likely to be sentenced to jail after conviction than women and receiving on average 63% longer jail sentences." An interesting side-note: the effect shrinks when the judge is a woman. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentencing_disparity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentencing_disparity

UncleOxidant 4y ago
> twice as likely to be sentenced to jail But this doesn't seem to account for all of that 10:1 ratio.
- luckylion 4y ago
  I never said it would, but it does explain part of it, and especially the length, which acts as a multiplier. Hard to say what the "true" frequencies are. I'm pretty sure you'd still have more men committing crimes, but probably not as many if they'd get similar treatments. And you'd probably see shorter sentences, and fewer jail sentences, if there was no sentencing gap. I have no idea what the "true" numbers would be though.
  - UncleOxidant 4y ago
    I just looked up mass-shooting stats in the US (data going back to 1966) and 98% have been committed by men - no sentencing bias there.
    - luckylion 4y ago
      I see you have no actual interest in the discussion and just want confirmation of your beliefs. I'm sure you'll find plenty in the depth of the internet. Good luck, and have a great day!
    - anonporridge 4y ago
      Mass shootings are a statistically insignificant portion of all violent crime. They're just emotionally visceral and newsworthy, which is why we think it's a bigger problem than it is in reality.
    - tsol 4y ago
      When women are statistically fewer of the high achieving people in society we say it must be because of socialization, because women and men are equal. How is it that this is because men are simply violent? So are men just women with an added propensity for violence?

UncleOxidant 4y ago

> twice as likely to be sentenced to jail But this doesn't seem to account for all of that 10:1 ratio.

luckylion 4y ago
I never said it would, but it does explain part of it, and especially the length, which acts as a multiplier. Hard to say what the "true" frequencies are. I'm pretty sure you'd still have more men committing crimes, but probably not as many if they'd get similar treatments. And you'd probably see shorter sentences, and fewer jail sentences, if there was no sentencing gap. I have no idea what the "true" numbers would be though.
- UncleOxidant 4y ago
  I just looked up mass-shooting stats in the US (data going back to 1966) and 98% have been committed by men - no sentencing bias there.
  - luckylion 4y ago
    I see you have no actual interest in the discussion and just want confirmation of your beliefs. I'm sure you'll find plenty in the depth of the internet. Good luck, and have a great day!
  - anonporridge 4y ago
    Mass shootings are a statistically insignificant portion of all violent crime. They're just emotionally visceral and newsworthy, which is why we think it's a bigger problem than it is in reality.
  - tsol 4y ago
    When women are statistically fewer of the high achieving people in society we say it must be because of socialization, because women and men are equal. How is it that this is because men are simply violent? So are men just women with an added propensity for violence?