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I know this is more of an emotional response than a serious proposal, but I'll take the opportunity to point out: Black-and-white thinking leads to very ineffi

by jmull 4y ago

I know this is more of an emotional response than a serious proposal, but I'll take the opportunity to point out: Black-and-white thinking leads to very inefficient outcomes. That is, it makes a lot more sense to reign-in, reform, and redirect intelligence and policing agencies than get rid of them. I think we want to work on how to align their interests -- as individual agents, intermediate commanding officers, and agency-wide -- with ours as citizens.

anonym29 4y ago
Gray thinking ideas: • Down-classify everything by 1 designation. Top Secret / Secure Compartmentalized Information becomes Top Secret. Top Secret becomes Secret. Secret becomes Declassified. (I've heard overclassification decreases trust in government) • Shorten the maximum secrecy timespan (some information is kept secret 50+ years to avoid political blowback against operations that the public would find inexcusable) • Shorten the average secrecy timespan (see above) • Ban ISP's from collecting, retaining, distributing, and selling netflow metadata. • Ban all government agencies from bypassing fourth amendment by way of purchasing surveillance from private organizations. Edit: if you're going to downvote someone for brainstorming less extreme ideas (not suggestions/demands) as a response to more extreme ideas, please at least offer criticism of the ideas themselves.
Natsu 4y ago
Yeah, just removing them wouldn't solve much. But there are other possible reforms, for example, I'd want them to record all interviews (which is currently against policy last I knew) instead of relying on FD-302s. And I'd like their case management system put under the control of an independent agency that will audit for things like missing Woods files, so they can't just go "oops" on stuff like that. And if they delete something, someone else gets to restore it from backup and report to the courts who did the deletion and when according to the audit logs. I'd do similar things with police body cam footage. It should not be under the control of the police and if someone has a habit of never turning theirs on, it should be addressed and the cop reprimanded long before it impacts a case. Same goes for jail footage, as well. So "oops" Epstein's cell camera died just can't be a thing, because it's not under their control at all and they address such things right away, not just when it's a problem.

by jmull 4y ago

anonym29 4y ago

Gray thinking ideas: • Down-classify everything by 1 designation. Top Secret / Secure Compartmentalized Information becomes Top Secret. Top Secret becomes Secret. Secret becomes Declassified. (I've heard overclassification decreases trust in government) • Shorten the maximum secrecy timespan (some information is kept secret 50+ years to avoid political blowback against operations that the public would find inexcusable) • Shorten the average secrecy timespan (see above) • Ban ISP's from collecting, retaining, distributing, and selling netflow metadata. • Ban all government agencies from bypassing fourth amendment by way of purchasing surveillance from private organizations. Edit: if you're going to downvote someone for brainstorming less extreme ideas (not suggestions/demands) as a response to more extreme ideas, please at least offer criticism of the ideas themselves.

Natsu 4y ago

Yeah, just removing them wouldn't solve much. But there are other possible reforms, for example, I'd want them to record all interviews (which is currently against policy last I knew) instead of relying on FD-302s. And I'd like their case management system put under the control of an independent agency that will audit for things like missing Woods files, so they can't just go "oops" on stuff like that. And if they delete something, someone else gets to restore it from backup and report to the courts who did the deletion and when according to the audit logs. I'd do similar things with police body cam footage. It should not be under the control of the police and if someone has a habit of never turning theirs on, it should be addressed and the cop reprimanded long before it impacts a case. Same goes for jail footage, as well. So "oops" Epstein's cell camera died just can't be a thing, because it's not under their control at all and they address such things right away, not just when it's a problem.