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I would love to see a survey of mobile phone users to see if this matters to them. I’ll take a guess it doesn’t matter because Google would be flaunting the r

by adrr 4y ago

I would love to see a survey of mobile phone users to see if this matters to them. I’ll take a guess it doesn’t matter because Google would be flaunting the results. As for negative effects on kids. There’s more than just phones. Clothes, cars, vacations, social media posts, tutoring, sports. Maybe we should put everyone in uniforms, don’t allow kids drive to school, ban sports, and forbid them from talking about their vacations. And everyone was equal.

OJFord 4y ago
> I’ll take a guess it doesn’t matter because Google would be flaunting the results. I'm not sure how easy that would be - 'Apple will make you more popular if you use an iPhone instead of Android!'...'No no, that's bad, you don't want that, don't buy an iPhone!'
- snazz 4y ago
  Google did an ad campaign recently that’s basically that line of thinking (plus trying to encourage them to adopt RCS): https://www.android.com/get-the-message/ https://www.android.com/get-the-message/
  - kaba0 4y ago
    Obligatory addition: Google’s version of RCS is just built on top of an open standard but is hardly more open then apple’s imessage so adopting that is not a solution either.
criddell 4y ago
It matters to me a little bit. A green bubble means the message is basically a postcard that the carrier can read. A blue bubble means the message is in an envelope that my carrier can’t read.
thatguy0900 4y ago
My school had uniforms, bullying doesn't stop. Kids are honestly just mean, and not idiots. You can dress a wealthy kid and a poor kid in the same clothes and you will not fool anyone in class about which one is the poor one.
- threatofrain 4y ago
  But does it mitigate bullying? Going straight to “but bullying doesn’t stop” is an unconvincingly perfectionist stance.
  - thatguy0900 4y ago
    Not really, no. If a kid wants to bully you theyll find a reason to do so. If you've ever been a third party watching that stuff, you'll see what people are actually being bullied for doesn't really make sense. Take away the shoes and the phone and it will just be your hair or your posture. Bullying is a targeted activity
- alvarezbjm-hn 4y ago
  In my uniformed school, decades ago, money didn't matter as much as size. The big popular guys kept the rich guys around to buy them things. Edit: power came from physical strenght, attractiveness and sports proficiency. Very much an ancient greek ideal, lol. Bullying is about power. Bullying can be about money when you don't normalize the population for money. Nowadays you would need uniforms and school provided phones, I suppose. Never in America.

by adrr 4y ago

OJFord 4y ago

> I’ll take a guess it doesn’t matter because Google would be flaunting the results. I'm not sure how easy that would be - 'Apple will make you more popular if you use an iPhone instead of Android!'...'No no, that's bad, you don't want that, don't buy an iPhone!'

snazz 4y ago
Google did an ad campaign recently that’s basically that line of thinking (plus trying to encourage them to adopt RCS): https://www.android.com/get-the-message/ https://www.android.com/get-the-message/
- kaba0 4y ago
  Obligatory addition: Google’s version of RCS is just built on top of an open standard but is hardly more open then apple’s imessage so adopting that is not a solution either.

criddell 4y ago

It matters to me a little bit. A green bubble means the message is basically a postcard that the carrier can read. A blue bubble means the message is in an envelope that my carrier can’t read.

thatguy0900 4y ago

My school had uniforms, bullying doesn't stop. Kids are honestly just mean, and not idiots. You can dress a wealthy kid and a poor kid in the same clothes and you will not fool anyone in class about which one is the poor one.

threatofrain 4y ago
But does it mitigate bullying? Going straight to “but bullying doesn’t stop” is an unconvincingly perfectionist stance.
- thatguy0900 4y ago
  Not really, no. If a kid wants to bully you theyll find a reason to do so. If you've ever been a third party watching that stuff, you'll see what people are actually being bullied for doesn't really make sense. Take away the shoes and the phone and it will just be your hair or your posture. Bullying is a targeted activity
alvarezbjm-hn 4y ago
In my uniformed school, decades ago, money didn't matter as much as size. The big popular guys kept the rich guys around to buy them things. Edit: power came from physical strenght, attractiveness and sports proficiency. Very much an ancient greek ideal, lol. Bullying is about power. Bullying can be about money when you don't normalize the population for money. Nowadays you would need uniforms and school provided phones, I suppose. Never in America.