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We can be confident that whoever crudely tagged the boxes did not make them. We do not know when they were made, which is to say which generation of Egyptians
by ncmncm 4y ago
We can be confident that whoever crudely tagged the boxes did not make them.
We do not know when they were made, which is to say which generation of Egyptians made them, or for what, or how, or why they left one in the middle of the hallway, or how they could have moved any of them into place. What is offered is obviously inadequate.
- mcphage 4y ago> whoever crudely tagged the boxes did not make them Which crude tagging are you referring to here?
- ncmncm 4y agoYou may look at the stuff carved on the outside of the Saqqara boxes yourself. Even images you can find online are wholly adequate to reveal how crude they are.
- School-Cotton 4y agoI googled “Saqqara boxes” and didn’t find any images where one could really tell. Could you link to the images you’re referring to?
- ncmncm 4y agoExample: https://www.ancient-code.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/saqqara_serapeum02.jpg https://www.ancient-code.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/saqq...
- School-Cotton 4y agoPerhaps I’m just a philistine but it’s not obvious to me from that super-low-res photo that the carvings are so bad that they can’t have been made by the same people as the box itself.
- ncmncm 4y agoThe lines are, visibly, not even straight. The surfaces of the boxes are ground to flatness we could not improve on today.
- tharkun__ 4y agoFrom that photo I would actually say that the box is not a perfectly flat cuboid. If you look at the bottom left of the picture it looks to me as though the "face" is actually not perfectly straight. If you looked at this from the side I would expect it to look more like this: --- | | / <--- | The arrow shows our vantage point. This doesn't seem to be entirely straight across the entire face either (unlike my crude ASCII "drawing"). Almost like a huge ball 'dented' the stone. There's also a huge flash and glare going on which doesn't help and probably overexposes the specks that you see are also present in other pictures (like you posted in the sibling thread).
- ncmncm 4y agoYes, some faces have what look like dents in or scoops out of them, probably from fractures in the mother stone, or from quarrying.
- tharkun__ 4y agoIf you know that then why do you say the lines aren't straight? The ones that look as if they weren't straight seem to be perfectly straight but are following those dents and thus look like they aren't. Especially if your vantage point exacerbates that.
- ncmncm 4y agoI am saying they are not straight even on the flat parts.
- mcphage 4y agoMaybe it's easier to grind the surfaces flat than to carve in small detailed images.
- mcphage 4y agoI mean, looking at stuff like this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Apis_Sarcophagus_of_Khabash.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Apis_Sar... There's not much writing there, but I wouldn't call that crude.
- ncmncm 4y agoRelative to the tech needed to produce the boxes, that is extremely crude. But your pic is far from the most crude seen. That there is no uniformity is more evidence that they were tagged.
- wl 4y agoYou're overconfident. The consensus view in Egyptology is you're wrong about this. Maybe the consensus view is wrong and your fringe theory is more accurate, but it's really hard to have confidence that your theory is the correct one when it is almost universally rejected by people who study this. As someone who can read the inscriptions you're talking about: they're not crude at all.
- ncmncm 4y agoTheir physical execution is crude. We may presume they were transcribed from papyrus written by poets laureate of the period.
- wl 4y agoI'm talking specifically about their physical execution. It's not crude. I've seen plenty of sloppy hieroglyphs. These aren't them.
- ncmncm 4y agoA quick DDG image search turns up https://www.ancient-code.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/saqqara_serapeum02.jpg https://www.ancient-code.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/saqq... https://www.theancientconnection.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/DSC00308_1200_watermark-puka-45-opacity.jpeg https://www.theancientconnection.com/wp-content/uploads/2021...
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