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Because you do it only once and can use it in any other company you work. It's a highly portable tool for free. What are the chances that your next employer wil

Because you do it only once and can use it in any other company you work. It's a highly portable tool for free. What are the chances that your next employer will pay for a JB license?

jmondi 4y ago
Honestly, it is basically about a 100% chance that the next employer will pay for JB. I couldn’t imagine an employer refusing to pay $120/yr for a JB license for an employee they are already paying $180,000/yr.
- vbezhenar 4y ago
  My employee does not pay for JB license, I'm doing that myself and my colleagues are either using community editions or vscode (or cracked ones). He does not pay me $180,000/yr either, LoL, more like $30,000/yr. Also I think that it's more like $600/yr for companies.
  - dham 4y ago
    I pay for my own RubyMine and Copilot license. At the end of the day I just want to get the job done as efficient as possible and be done with it so I can do other hobbies or code side projects. If my co-workers want to work harder, that's on them
- mgkimsal 4y ago
  It's more than $120/year for an employee. https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/#commercial?billing=yearly https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/#commercial?billing=yearl... Reduced pricing in year 2 and 3, but up front it's $600/year. And... while someone's base pay may be a lot, these sorts of 'extras' might come from a different budget. And when there are a dozen services you're paying $20-$50/month/seat for, I know some managers start to scrutinize things a bit more. "Can't you just use the free version like other people do?"
  - OrvalWintermute 4y ago
    The pricing for All Products Pack was initially much less( $249.00 in 2016), and since then, it became one of the minor bills that you just pay because it is so little. I really like the licensing model they employ.
    - mgkimsal 4y ago
      It's now $289 from $249 for first year - for individual purchases. The corporate/business pricing - seat counts for a company vs tied to your individual name - is the (much?) higher price.
- zihotki 4y ago
  You're wrongly assuming US salaries. Not everybody gets 180k/year on the other part of the globe. And there are junior/med. devs in US too. Plus the subscription price is 600/year per person if you buy it as an organisation - https://www.jetbrains.com/store/#commercial https://www.jetbrains.com/store/#commercial. If it's a small company, chances are high that they may prefer a cheaper option.
_xivi 4y ago
> Because you do it only once Not really though. Extensions are frequently deprecated or outdated, need to switch to new alternative, don't play nice together, etc. Anyway, there's no need to advocate for vscode, it's not an underdog. I imagine everyone here has already formed their opinion and tried JB IDEs, vscode, and other tools, and probably make use of all of them somewhere in their workflow.
- pjmlp 4y ago
  Usually the images are done per project. VSCode Web as modern version of X Windows based IDEs is great, as yet another Electron app not really.
- zihotki 4y ago
  > Extensions are frequently deprecated or outdated Unfortunately my experience differs from yours in this area. It all of course depends on the languages you use, what you do, on which side of adoption curve you are, etc. I work with .Net plus a plenty of web stuff, I'm rather conservative about plugins. And for me everything is quite stable in my area so that the plugins configured 5 years ago still work. Adoption of language server protocol in different languages and frameworks, adoption of .editorconfig helped a lot to stabilize everything.

Because you do it only once and can use it in any other company you work. It's a highly portable tool for free. What are the chances that your next employer will pay for a JB license?

jmondi 4y ago

Honestly, it is basically about a 100% chance that the next employer will pay for JB. I couldn’t imagine an employer refusing to pay $120/yr for a JB license for an employee they are already paying $180,000/yr.

vbezhenar 4y ago
My employee does not pay for JB license, I'm doing that myself and my colleagues are either using community editions or vscode (or cracked ones). He does not pay me $180,000/yr either, LoL, more like $30,000/yr. Also I think that it's more like $600/yr for companies.
- dham 4y ago
  I pay for my own RubyMine and Copilot license. At the end of the day I just want to get the job done as efficient as possible and be done with it so I can do other hobbies or code side projects. If my co-workers want to work harder, that's on them
mgkimsal 4y ago
It's more than $120/year for an employee. https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/#commercial?billing=yearly https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/#commercial?billing=yearl... Reduced pricing in year 2 and 3, but up front it's $600/year. And... while someone's base pay may be a lot, these sorts of 'extras' might come from a different budget. And when there are a dozen services you're paying $20-$50/month/seat for, I know some managers start to scrutinize things a bit more. "Can't you just use the free version like other people do?"
- OrvalWintermute 4y ago
  The pricing for All Products Pack was initially much less( $249.00 in 2016), and since then, it became one of the minor bills that you just pay because it is so little. I really like the licensing model they employ.
  - mgkimsal 4y ago
    It's now $289 from $249 for first year - for individual purchases. The corporate/business pricing - seat counts for a company vs tied to your individual name - is the (much?) higher price.
zihotki 4y ago
You're wrongly assuming US salaries. Not everybody gets 180k/year on the other part of the globe. And there are junior/med. devs in US too. Plus the subscription price is 600/year per person if you buy it as an organisation - https://www.jetbrains.com/store/#commercial https://www.jetbrains.com/store/#commercial. If it's a small company, chances are high that they may prefer a cheaper option.

_xivi 4y ago

> Because you do it only once Not really though. Extensions are frequently deprecated or outdated, need to switch to new alternative, don't play nice together, etc. Anyway, there's no need to advocate for vscode, it's not an underdog. I imagine everyone here has already formed their opinion and tried JB IDEs, vscode, and other tools, and probably make use of all of them somewhere in their workflow.

pjmlp 4y ago
Usually the images are done per project. VSCode Web as modern version of X Windows based IDEs is great, as yet another Electron app not really.
zihotki 4y ago
> Extensions are frequently deprecated or outdated Unfortunately my experience differs from yours in this area. It all of course depends on the languages you use, what you do, on which side of adoption curve you are, etc. I work with .Net plus a plenty of web stuff, I'm rather conservative about plugins. And for me everything is quite stable in my area so that the plugins configured 5 years ago still work. Adoption of language server protocol in different languages and frameworks, adoption of .editorconfig helped a lot to stabilize everything.