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Jetbrains Fleet Public Preview Free Download

26 points by mirzap 4y ago

nyokodo 4y ago
https://www.jetbrains.com/fleet/ https://www.jetbrains.com/fleet/
mattrighetti 4y ago
https://blog.jetbrains.com/fleet/2022/10/introducing-the-fleet-public-preview/ https://blog.jetbrains.com/fleet/2022/10/introducing-the-fle...
locopati 4y ago
noticeably missing from the list of supported languages in the blog link... Ruby
madeofpalk 4y ago
I'm keen to give this a go! I'm glad to see Jetbrain has a 'remotes' IDE that'll hopefully work with WSL like VS Code does. I'm really impressed with Rider and the neat IDE features it has for C#, and have been wanting something smarter than VC Code for web development.
trollied 4y ago
Needs merging with https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33175373 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33175373
raflueder 4y ago
I was curious to give it a go but unusable on Gnome 42.5 (X11); the window lags so much that simply trying to drag to reposition it on the screen is impossible. Seems related an issue with Skiko and OpenGL reported here: https://github.com/JetBrains/skiko/issues/494 https://github.com/JetBrains/skiko/issues/494
erenkaplan 4y ago
Can't wait to try it, a nice alternative to VSCode
robomartin 4y ago
While we have been paid Jetbrains customers for more years than I can remember, their latest price hike has caused me to take pause. I see a path towards $1,000 or more per license. We are seriously considering getting off this train before it is too late.
- stephenr 4y ago
  Are you talking about the All Tools pack? I don't really get who that is targeted at, to be honest, and I wonder about who is paying for it. I admit I don't use any of the .Net/MS tech specific tools they offer so thats possibly a reason - but if you're paying just to get access to the other various language-specific IDEs (webstorm, pycharm, ruby mine, phpstorm, etc) - they're all just IDEA with a pre-installed language plugin, and disabled support for the other language plugins. If you just use those non-.NET apps, it's far simpler IMO (and cheaper) to just buy IDEA Ultimate and install the language packs you need.
  - robomartin 4y ago
    > Are you talking about the All Tools pack? Yes > it's far simpler IMO (and cheaper) to just buy IDEA Ultimate and install the language packs you need. I'll look into that. Like I said, we've been on this for a while. I never even thought about the license cost until they sent out an email with a nearly 25% (from memory) cost increase. Simply put, from my perspective, what they have probably accomplished with this is to have lots of customers question the expense and take the time to investigate alternatives. Not smart. At all. You keep the customers who have been supporting you at their pricing level and onboard new customers under a new model. The old customers remain very happy and appreciate the recognition. In fact, you could offer old customers a window of opportunity to buy new licenses that would also remain locked at the old pricing model. If you hit everyone with a 25% price increase, all you accomplish is to piss people off and cause them to ask questions they never had. It goes from never thinking about the cost to becoming something on a to-do list.
emptyparadise 4y ago
Curious to see how well it integrates with language servers. And of course need Vim mode. IntelliJ's Vim mode works a lot better than VS Code's from my experience.

26 points by mirzap 4y ago

https://www.jetbrains.com/fleet/ https://www.jetbrains.com/fleet/

https://blog.jetbrains.com/fleet/2022/10/introducing-the-fleet-public-preview/ https://blog.jetbrains.com/fleet/2022/10/introducing-the-fle...

locopati 4y ago

noticeably missing from the list of supported languages in the blog link... Ruby

madeofpalk 4y ago

I'm keen to give this a go! I'm glad to see Jetbrain has a 'remotes' IDE that'll hopefully work with WSL like VS Code does. I'm really impressed with Rider and the neat IDE features it has for C#, and have been wanting something smarter than VC Code for web development.

trollied 4y ago

Needs merging with https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33175373 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33175373

raflueder 4y ago

I was curious to give it a go but unusable on Gnome 42.5 (X11); the window lags so much that simply trying to drag to reposition it on the screen is impossible. Seems related an issue with Skiko and OpenGL reported here: https://github.com/JetBrains/skiko/issues/494 https://github.com/JetBrains/skiko/issues/494

erenkaplan 4y ago

Can't wait to try it, a nice alternative to VSCode

robomartin 4y ago

While we have been paid Jetbrains customers for more years than I can remember, their latest price hike has caused me to take pause. I see a path towards $1,000 or more per license. We are seriously considering getting off this train before it is too late.

stephenr 4y ago
Are you talking about the All Tools pack? I don't really get who that is targeted at, to be honest, and I wonder about who is paying for it. I admit I don't use any of the .Net/MS tech specific tools they offer so thats possibly a reason - but if you're paying just to get access to the other various language-specific IDEs (webstorm, pycharm, ruby mine, phpstorm, etc) - they're all just IDEA with a pre-installed language plugin, and disabled support for the other language plugins. If you just use those non-.NET apps, it's far simpler IMO (and cheaper) to just buy IDEA Ultimate and install the language packs you need.
- robomartin 4y ago
  > Are you talking about the All Tools pack? Yes > it's far simpler IMO (and cheaper) to just buy IDEA Ultimate and install the language packs you need. I'll look into that. Like I said, we've been on this for a while. I never even thought about the license cost until they sent out an email with a nearly 25% (from memory) cost increase. Simply put, from my perspective, what they have probably accomplished with this is to have lots of customers question the expense and take the time to investigate alternatives. Not smart. At all. You keep the customers who have been supporting you at their pricing level and onboard new customers under a new model. The old customers remain very happy and appreciate the recognition. In fact, you could offer old customers a window of opportunity to buy new licenses that would also remain locked at the old pricing model. If you hit everyone with a 25% price increase, all you accomplish is to piss people off and cause them to ask questions they never had. It goes from never thinking about the cost to becoming something on a to-do list.

emptyparadise 4y ago

Curious to see how well it integrates with language servers. And of course need Vim mode. IntelliJ's Vim mode works a lot better than VS Code's from my experience.