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It's a great proposal, it's been around for some time. Who's going to implement it? I could see Musk throwing some spare change at it, but 20+ years is a long t

It's a great proposal, it's been around for some time. Who's going to implement it? I could see Musk throwing some spare change at it, but 20+ years is a long time to wait for a news cycle.

SturgeonsLaw 4y ago
The privatisation of spaceflight is opening up a new era, and will lead to an increasing pace of innovation in the space (get it), but this is why there should always be a place for publicly funded space projects, à la NASA. We all progress when there are entities out there who can take on the big, long term projects that don't have an ROI measured in quarters.
- onethought 4y ago
  But NASA floundered about without even a launch capability for over a decade until private sector not measuring ROI in quarters with a long term vision to reach mars came along. Literally your example is the inverse of what has occurred. SpaceX sparked this current era, NASA in fact piggybacked on it, now that the cost of launch is lower NASAs fiddling around the edges is somewhat useful. But everyone is waiting around for SpaceX to solve the hard problems (cheap tonnage to orbit, and multi-planetary landing systems)… because NASA didn’t. (Admittedly NASA funds are funding a lot of SpaceX)
  - ceejayoz 4y ago
    > But everyone is waiting around for SpaceX to solve the hard problems (cheap tonnage to orbit, and multi-planetary landing systems)… because NASA didn’t. (Admittedly NASA funds are funding a lot of SpaceX) I don't think you're giving NASA enough credit here. The Commercial Crew and Cargo programs were innovative bets that paid off in spades. I hope they do more like it. I tend to blame the floundering period on Congress.
  - fallingknife 4y ago
    The main reason for the rocket failure is because it wasn't a rocket program. It was a jobs program. NASA actually does extremely well with its science missions, because they are actually science missions, and not jobs programs.
sph 4y ago
Can we stop calling for notoriously fickle Elon Musk to lead space innovation? SpaceX is great, but it's starting to feel more and more like a cult of personality, and not that great of a personality either. Any time there's a post about space on social media (HN included), there's always some starry eyed commenters saying "Musk could maybe do it". It's not like he needs more publicity.
- fallingknife 4y ago
  No one alive on Earth today has both the level of ability to execute and the available funds to match Elon Musk.
- skykooler 4y ago
  I think it's mainly because there are basically only two individuals who own a space company and have the money to do a project like this. And Bezos has not been very successful at getting things done, space-wise.

It's a great proposal, it's been around for some time. Who's going to implement it? I could see Musk throwing some spare change at it, but 20+ years is a long time to wait for a news cycle.

SturgeonsLaw 4y ago

The privatisation of spaceflight is opening up a new era, and will lead to an increasing pace of innovation in the space (get it), but this is why there should always be a place for publicly funded space projects, à la NASA. We all progress when there are entities out there who can take on the big, long term projects that don't have an ROI measured in quarters.

onethought 4y ago
But NASA floundered about without even a launch capability for over a decade until private sector not measuring ROI in quarters with a long term vision to reach mars came along. Literally your example is the inverse of what has occurred. SpaceX sparked this current era, NASA in fact piggybacked on it, now that the cost of launch is lower NASAs fiddling around the edges is somewhat useful. But everyone is waiting around for SpaceX to solve the hard problems (cheap tonnage to orbit, and multi-planetary landing systems)… because NASA didn’t. (Admittedly NASA funds are funding a lot of SpaceX)
- ceejayoz 4y ago
  > But everyone is waiting around for SpaceX to solve the hard problems (cheap tonnage to orbit, and multi-planetary landing systems)… because NASA didn’t. (Admittedly NASA funds are funding a lot of SpaceX) I don't think you're giving NASA enough credit here. The Commercial Crew and Cargo programs were innovative bets that paid off in spades. I hope they do more like it. I tend to blame the floundering period on Congress.
- fallingknife 4y ago
  The main reason for the rocket failure is because it wasn't a rocket program. It was a jobs program. NASA actually does extremely well with its science missions, because they are actually science missions, and not jobs programs.

sph 4y ago

Can we stop calling for notoriously fickle Elon Musk to lead space innovation? SpaceX is great, but it's starting to feel more and more like a cult of personality, and not that great of a personality either. Any time there's a post about space on social media (HN included), there's always some starry eyed commenters saying "Musk could maybe do it". It's not like he needs more publicity.

fallingknife 4y ago
No one alive on Earth today has both the level of ability to execute and the available funds to match Elon Musk.
skykooler 4y ago
I think it's mainly because there are basically only two individuals who own a space company and have the money to do a project like this. And Bezos has not been very successful at getting things done, space-wise.