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Looking at that picture, I'm not seeing anything demonic or disturbing in it. This view is often seen by people under influence of drugs or alcohol, if they eve

by akomtu 4y ago

Looking at that picture, I'm not seeing anything demonic or disturbing in it. This view is often seen by people under influence of drugs or alcohol, if they ever manage to remember details, and this gives a plausible explanation: the author was high that time, and must've confused his otherwise banal vision with something important.

blowski 4y ago
It reminds me of that guy who squiggled over his whole house. Demons make interesting shapes.
rng_civ 4y ago
That might be possible, but according to the article, the images were created over the course of two years. If the conservator was under the influence of drugs or alcohol for that long, I would imagine signs would have showed up in his other jobs, in his personal documents, or in other aspects of his life (the vicar didn't note that much substance consumption?) Regardless of the cause, I'm quite interested in what the conservator's reaction to it would have been if/when he realized he did not actually conserve the original art. I've watched a few art conversations (Baumgartner Restoration on YouTube is great!) and there's a huge pride in accurately reproducing/restoring the original.
- akomtu 4y ago
  He was under influence once (e.g. a delirium episode), he saw that vision once and it really impressed him. The true importance of these demons is that of mosquitos: they are unimpressive, but drugs may distort visuals so mosquitos appear as dragons for example.
Broken_Hippo 4y ago
I've used drugs. I've generally been casual about it (save for nicotine and sometimes THC), but it means that I've met a few actual users in my time. Most folks aren't seeing demons, and especially not enough to do a 2-year secret art project while on drugs. It is, honestly, more common for a businessperson to have a secret drug habits. I'd also like to point out that folks have seen demons for quite some time in history without having it fueled by drugs: Religion can fuel this, especially when combined with little understanding of the observable world around you. And lastly, just because you don't see anything demonic nor disturbing doesn't actually take away from it being such to others. I put random eyes in artwork sometimes: I like it, but it really makes some folks' skin crawl. They definitely have different opinions than I do.

by akomtu 4y ago

blowski 4y ago

It reminds me of that guy who squiggled over his whole house. Demons make interesting shapes.

rng_civ 4y ago

That might be possible, but according to the article, the images were created over the course of two years. If the conservator was under the influence of drugs or alcohol for that long, I would imagine signs would have showed up in his other jobs, in his personal documents, or in other aspects of his life (the vicar didn't note that much substance consumption?) Regardless of the cause, I'm quite interested in what the conservator's reaction to it would have been if/when he realized he did not actually conserve the original art. I've watched a few art conversations (Baumgartner Restoration on YouTube is great!) and there's a huge pride in accurately reproducing/restoring the original.

akomtu 4y ago
He was under influence once (e.g. a delirium episode), he saw that vision once and it really impressed him. The true importance of these demons is that of mosquitos: they are unimpressive, but drugs may distort visuals so mosquitos appear as dragons for example.

Broken_Hippo 4y ago

I've used drugs. I've generally been casual about it (save for nicotine and sometimes THC), but it means that I've met a few actual users in my time. Most folks aren't seeing demons, and especially not enough to do a 2-year secret art project while on drugs. It is, honestly, more common for a businessperson to have a secret drug habits. I'd also like to point out that folks have seen demons for quite some time in history without having it fueled by drugs: Religion can fuel this, especially when combined with little understanding of the observable world around you. And lastly, just because you don't see anything demonic nor disturbing doesn't actually take away from it being such to others. I put random eyes in artwork sometimes: I like it, but it really makes some folks' skin crawl. They definitely have different opinions than I do.