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I never understood the hate for Facebook. Everytime someone points out their reasons, usually it has major flaws in 1) Inconsistency 2) Hypocrisy 3) Ideological

I never understood the hate for Facebook. Everytime someone points out their reasons, usually it has major flaws in 1) Inconsistency 2) Hypocrisy 3) Ideological bias 4) Bandwagoning. So if someone wants to hate Facebook, if they have principled position, I respect that. But that's hardly ever the case in my experience online and offline. I am not a fan of most social media companies, but I love the tech scene, and the progress Meta is making in this field. Should be universally applauded even by the harshest critics of Facebook.

jiscariot 4y ago
The NYT writing FB hit pieces every week for the last three years, hasn't helped that perception.
marricks 4y ago
I don’t think “progressing in a field” is worthy of applause if you’re just going to use that progress to hurt people. Technology doesn’t just magically make peoples lives better, sorry but the cats out of the bag on that one.
- pcthrowaway 4y ago
  Not defending Facebook, but that is essentially what capitalism is, and virtually all "successful" companies follow the same path. I get how someone who doesn't question it or doesn't object to it could be confused by the hate for facebook.
cowtools 4y ago
What field? the field of time-wasting technology?
- blobbers 4y ago
  They’re trying to make us more connected to each other… by getting rid of reality :-/
- yreg 4y ago
  Entertainment is not time wasting and VR is not just for entertainment.
echevil 4y ago
As far as I can remember it all started since Trump got elected. Before then the tone on Facebook was much more positive than it is now
- Karrot_Kream 4y ago
  The word "dystopia" (according to Google Trends at least) had a large spike worldwide in November 2016 and has been consistently trending higher than pre-November 2016 ever since. Trump (or probably just general events around then) did something to the Anglosphere net that definitely made it more negative and cynical. EDIT: same pattern with "dystopian"
- rob74 4y ago
  Also, Brexit.
saiya-jin 4y ago
Well maybe you never had the need for privacy. Fine with you, not fine by most people. Or you are oblivious how previously quite good tool for integration with remote friends and family got progressively worse to the point where its utter ad-infested and bug-infested piece of crap (to be fair FB was having tons of bugs since beginning, they just didn't improve on that front, I can easily hit 3-5 of them within a minute of casual use - latest firefox with ublock origin). No company sliding down so much has received much love. Not sure what is there to not understand. Oh yes and owner is clearly an amoral person with strong sociopathic traits hellbent on making humanity worse off long term, not unique but the same applies and compounds. No amount of self-serving VR progression or some open source libs can anyhow annulate that. Morals is something a lot of people value, and lack of it gets appropriate reactions.
ux-app 4y ago

jiscariot 4y ago

The NYT writing FB hit pieces every week for the last three years, hasn't helped that perception.

marricks 4y ago

I don’t think “progressing in a field” is worthy of applause if you’re just going to use that progress to hurt people. Technology doesn’t just magically make peoples lives better, sorry but the cats out of the bag on that one.

pcthrowaway 4y ago
Not defending Facebook, but that is essentially what capitalism is, and virtually all "successful" companies follow the same path. I get how someone who doesn't question it or doesn't object to it could be confused by the hate for facebook.

cowtools 4y ago

What field? the field of time-wasting technology?

blobbers 4y ago
They’re trying to make us more connected to each other… by getting rid of reality :-/
yreg 4y ago
Entertainment is not time wasting and VR is not just for entertainment.

echevil 4y ago

As far as I can remember it all started since Trump got elected. Before then the tone on Facebook was much more positive than it is now

Karrot_Kream 4y ago
The word "dystopia" (according to Google Trends at least) had a large spike worldwide in November 2016 and has been consistently trending higher than pre-November 2016 ever since. Trump (or probably just general events around then) did something to the Anglosphere net that definitely made it more negative and cynical. EDIT: same pattern with "dystopian"
rob74 4y ago
Also, Brexit.

saiya-jin 4y ago

Well maybe you never had the need for privacy. Fine with you, not fine by most people. Or you are oblivious how previously quite good tool for integration with remote friends and family got progressively worse to the point where its utter ad-infested and bug-infested piece of crap (to be fair FB was having tons of bugs since beginning, they just didn't improve on that front, I can easily hit 3-5 of them within a minute of casual use - latest firefox with ublock origin). No company sliding down so much has received much love. Not sure what is there to not understand. Oh yes and owner is clearly an amoral person with strong sociopathic traits hellbent on making humanity worse off long term, not unique but the same applies and compounds. No amount of self-serving VR progression or some open source libs can anyhow annulate that. Morals is something a lot of people value, and lack of it gets appropriate reactions.

ux-app 4y ago