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Chimps and gorillas form rainforest friendships
- matheist 4y agoEarlier discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33047525 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33047525
- 29athrowaway 4y agoApes together strong.
- daniel_iversen 4y agoNice reference :)
- hulitu 4y ago> Apes together strong. Someone sees your comment and the next thing you see: they are invited to join NATO. /s
- tough 4y agoOr BAYC, sorry web3 / crypto is where my mind went
- simonh 4y agoInteresting, on the one hand they don’t compete for precisely the same resources and terrain so there not in direct competition with each other. In particular there’s no competition between the males of the two species for females. On the other hand it’s not obvious that they gain from amicable social interactions, except perhaps the benefit of avoiding pointless and destructive competition that wouldn’t advantage either of them. Maybe for social animals, experiencing positive social interactions like this and the skills you learn from them can be a benefit in itself? I think beyond the fact that they interact peacefully, the specifics of their interactions and their nature is good to have well documented. The unfortunate fact is these species* may* not be round forever and the more we learn about them when we have the opportunity the better, and there’s always the chance that understanding these animals better will help us preserve them for longer, in addition to what we might learn about our own nature and that of our common ancestors with these fascinating creatures. * thanks for the fixes, autocorrect and posting from a phone at 3am aren’t a great combination.
- thaumasiotes 4y ago> these prices my not be round forever This is an excellent illustration of how autocorrect is much worse than nothing. I can easily determine that "my" was meant to be "may" and "round" was meant to be "around". But "prices"? If you just left whatever the typo was alone, I'd be able to understand that word too.
- angry_cactus 4y agoMaybe "these species may not be around forever"
- bee_rider 4y agoIt could be that they are just acting on the instinct to socialize that they already have for interacting within their own species.
- saiya-jin 4y agoI would bet so, and also curiosity that is ingrained in all species. If the other side doesn't attack, a mutual relationship can form over time
- buddhistdude 4y ago
- iza 4y agoPaywall bypass: https://archive.ph/3pxOH https://archive.ph/3pxOH
- ggm 4y agoHow else do we explain Neanderthal DNA in Denisovan derived humans?
- cyco130 4y agoIt made me think: As humans, we are a very lonely species. There are no living beings of the same intellectual capacity as us other than ourselves. Chimps and gorillas have comparable intellectual capacities. We can bond with cats, dogs, and other pets but they have much lower intellect than us. Imagine how cool it would be to have friends from different species with similar intellectual capacities to ours.
- ls15 4y ago> There are no living beings of the same intellectual capacity as us other than ourselves. How can we know?
- hnfong 4y agoIf for example my dog is more intelligent than I am then I’m too dumb to recognize it. Same for others.
- exitb 4y agoGiven our history, I think it's for the better.
- hutzlibu 4y ago"Imagine how cool it would be to have friends from different species with similar intellectual capacities to ours." Well, there were the Neanderthals and they are not around anymore.
- 9dev 4y agoCompare: Dark Forest theory.
- bee_rider 4y agoDo they have similar capabilities? The gap between humans and just about every other animal, intelligence wise, seems to be so incredibly huge that many of them look to be around the same to us. Animal intelligence is hard to measure of course, but chimpanzees have higher encephalization quotient, form larger group sizes, and seem to have more complex tool usage.