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> It's no secret GPUs like the 4090 are hero cards. They represent the very best of what a company like Nvidia can squeeze out of its silicon, and as such they

> It's no secret GPUs like the 4090 are hero cards. They represent the very best of what a company like Nvidia can squeeze out of its silicon, and as such they command a premium. But it remains the mid-tier where most of the money is made. I don't think that's the case, specially with a TDP of 450W > So where does AMD fit in this new GPU world order? We won't know for sure until the House of Zen rolls out its RDNA 3 GPUs early next month, but the company's Ryzen 7000 CPU pricing does offer some hints The RX 6xxx XT gen do better than the newer intel GPU and with a LOWER TDP!! close to half the TDP in fact! I don't understand why this journalist intentionally ignore and downplay AMD, maybe the article is sponsored? maybe they prepare the shutdown of AMD since it's Taiwanese, China?

BuckRogers 4y ago
TDP of 450W Someone else made this point elsewhere but a 4090 can be CPU limited at 4K. It's 50% more performance with the same power draw as the 3090 Ti. Undervolting grants a 150W drop with a 5% drop in performance. The 40 series is looking spectacular so far. The RX 6xxx XT gen do better than the newer intel GPU and with a LOWER TDP!! close to half the TDP in fact! In rasterization. But the future of gaming is "DLSS" and ray-tracing. Both areas that AMD struggles so far. It's generally accepted, but muted in most reviews that both Intel and Nvidia are ahead in ray tracing and upscaling tech compared to AMD. It doesn't bode well for AMD's market has what appears to be a pretty competent opponent in that space now with Arc.
- Kukumber 4y ago
  > In rasterization. But the future of gaming is "DLSS" and ray-tracing That's marketing BS, and today nobody is playing in the future RX 6xxx gen is 2 years old already ;), and yet it does better for todays needs and for already released games That's not the case for the Intel lineup
  - BuckRogers 4y ago
    That's marketing BS, and today nobody is playing in the future That's not what I meant. I meant DLSS and RTX are the technologies that GPU companies should be focused on. Intel and Nvidia are focused on those things. But DLSS/RTX are the present and future of gaming. RX 6xxx gen is 2 years old already ;), and yet it does better for todays needs and for already released games That's not the case for the Intel lineup At some price points, in some games, yes. You could say that about all 3 vendors. There's no outright win, especially for AMD and Intel. They battle in the price/performance field. If anyone has an outright win on performance, it's only Nvidia.

BuckRogers 4y ago

TDP of 450W Someone else made this point elsewhere but a 4090 can be CPU limited at 4K. It's 50% more performance with the same power draw as the 3090 Ti. Undervolting grants a 150W drop with a 5% drop in performance. The 40 series is looking spectacular so far. The RX 6xxx XT gen do better than the newer intel GPU and with a LOWER TDP!! close to half the TDP in fact! In rasterization. But the future of gaming is "DLSS" and ray-tracing. Both areas that AMD struggles so far. It's generally accepted, but muted in most reviews that both Intel and Nvidia are ahead in ray tracing and upscaling tech compared to AMD. It doesn't bode well for AMD's market has what appears to be a pretty competent opponent in that space now with Arc.

Kukumber 4y ago
> In rasterization. But the future of gaming is "DLSS" and ray-tracing That's marketing BS, and today nobody is playing in the future RX 6xxx gen is 2 years old already ;), and yet it does better for todays needs and for already released games That's not the case for the Intel lineup
- BuckRogers 4y ago
  That's marketing BS, and today nobody is playing in the future That's not what I meant. I meant DLSS and RTX are the technologies that GPU companies should be focused on. Intel and Nvidia are focused on those things. But DLSS/RTX are the present and future of gaming. RX 6xxx gen is 2 years old already ;), and yet it does better for todays needs and for already released games That's not the case for the Intel lineup At some price points, in some games, yes. You could say that about all 3 vendors. There's no outright win, especially for AMD and Intel. They battle in the price/performance field. If anyone has an outright win on performance, it's only Nvidia.