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You've inadvertently described the delineation between a DE and WM. WMs manage windows and that's it -- they're lacking by design. A DE (e.g. Gnome, KDE) is a

You've inadvertently described the delineation between a DE and WM. WMs manage windows and that's it -- they're lacking by design. A DE (e.g. Gnome, KDE) is a multi-part package that bundles up a given WM with the software suite necessary for running a conventional desktop. There exist plenty of DEs that bundle up tiling WMs for convenient use (for example: Regolith[1]) [1]: https://regolith-desktop.com/ https://regolith-desktop.com/

least 4y ago
I've tried Regolith but at the time I believe it was just a ubuntu fork and you couldn't install it as a standalone package. It seems that has changed now which might warrant looking at. > You've inadvertently described the delineation between a DE and WM. My problem is that the competently done DEs tend to have their own WM and are not designed to allow you to run a different WM on top of it. I understand that most tiling WMs expect that the user might also want to set up their own desktop picture service, notifications, status bars, etc. I just think that there should be one that ships with something sensible that it doesn't just feel like it's piping STDOUT to an html file overlayed on top of the desktop that you then have to create custom scripts to have reasonable functionality. Polybar comes to mind as one such example. It just feels like the tradeoffs are so massive and I simply don't have the skill to create something that matches my own wants for a linux desktop. I love tinkering but I don't want to have to tinker with everything to get a solution that works for me.
- vladvasiliu 4y ago
  I've tried Regolith at one point (mid-2020) out of curiosity, and the experience was miserable. For some reason, everything was extremely laggy. It was on an older PC (i5-6500) so I figured the integrated GPU was too slow. Of course, my even older (2013) macbook pro worked absolutely fine with macOs's effects, but still. I was down to the point of trying to order a dedicated GPU that would fit the small form-factor case while being fanless. Then I tried Arch with i3 and the slowness went away. It would even happily render blur effects via picom without any issue.

least 4y ago

I've tried Regolith but at the time I believe it was just a ubuntu fork and you couldn't install it as a standalone package. It seems that has changed now which might warrant looking at. > You've inadvertently described the delineation between a DE and WM. My problem is that the competently done DEs tend to have their own WM and are not designed to allow you to run a different WM on top of it. I understand that most tiling WMs expect that the user might also want to set up their own desktop picture service, notifications, status bars, etc. I just think that there should be one that ships with something sensible that it doesn't just feel like it's piping STDOUT to an html file overlayed on top of the desktop that you then have to create custom scripts to have reasonable functionality. Polybar comes to mind as one such example. It just feels like the tradeoffs are so massive and I simply don't have the skill to create something that matches my own wants for a linux desktop. I love tinkering but I don't want to have to tinker with everything to get a solution that works for me.

vladvasiliu 4y ago
I've tried Regolith at one point (mid-2020) out of curiosity, and the experience was miserable. For some reason, everything was extremely laggy. It was on an older PC (i5-6500) so I figured the integrated GPU was too slow. Of course, my even older (2013) macbook pro worked absolutely fine with macOs's effects, but still. I was down to the point of trying to order a dedicated GPU that would fit the small form-factor case while being fanless. Then I tried Arch with i3 and the slowness went away. It would even happily render blur effects via picom without any issue.