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I hate to have to say something this obvious but here it goes: Discriminating against a group of human beings for an arbitrary detail such as the color of the

I hate to have to say something this obvious but here it goes: Discriminating against a group of human beings for an arbitrary detail such as the color of the skin is indeed racist. No matter if that human being is a freaking north-europe-blonde-arian-white or whatever. No matter if that human being is or not opressed or whatever. Judging people by the color of the skin is WRONG. This ideological bullshit that US is expelling that pretends to normalice racism against white people is atrocious and must end and everyone, like you, that follows this line of thought must be called out and being exposed as what you are, which is being a fucking racist. Seriously, it is beyond me.

ParetoOptimal 4y ago
It is racist, but it's not the same kind of racist backed by 200 plus years of systematic oppression.
- Octabrain 4y ago
  Ok, so we distinguish between "good racism" and "bad racism" then? Absurd. Sorry but I do not make that distinction: racism is bad no matter what your ancestor did and it's despicable. Also, *stop* assuming that the whole world has the same historical context as the US.
  - ParetoOptimal 4y ago
    > Ok, so we distinguish between "good racism" and "bad racism" then? How uncharitable. I never said either racism was bad, just that one has less weight behind it. > Also, stop assuming that the whole world has the same historical context as the US. This is a thread about a US based company so assuming the historical context of the US matters is fair. Also anti-black racism exists across the world.
    - Octabrain 4y ago
      I'm sorry but I simply don't buy those "scales of racism" of yours. Racism is bad, period. > This is a thread about a US based company so assuming the historical context of the US matters is fair. I was talking in general terms given that I've encountered this US ideological racist garbage in many places at this point. > Also anti-black racism exists across the world. Not at least where I'm originally from (Africa). I cannot get my head around any of these arguments other than pure and simple indoctrination. As soon as you apply basic common sensical logical reasoning to it, you see how outrageous and ridiculous is.
- datavirtue 4y ago
  Oh, it's a different kind of racism. Such a relief.
  - ParetoOptimal 4y ago
    Not a relief, but that difference means one is a more pressing issue than the other. In the same way someone with chest pains in the ER goes back before someone with non-critical respiratory issues.

ParetoOptimal 4y ago

It is racist, but it's not the same kind of racist backed by 200 plus years of systematic oppression.

Octabrain 4y ago
Ok, so we distinguish between "good racism" and "bad racism" then? Absurd. Sorry but I do not make that distinction: racism is bad no matter what your ancestor did and it's despicable. Also, *stop* assuming that the whole world has the same historical context as the US.
- ParetoOptimal 4y ago
  > Ok, so we distinguish between "good racism" and "bad racism" then? How uncharitable. I never said either racism was bad, just that one has less weight behind it. > Also, stop assuming that the whole world has the same historical context as the US. This is a thread about a US based company so assuming the historical context of the US matters is fair. Also anti-black racism exists across the world.
  - Octabrain 4y ago
    I'm sorry but I simply don't buy those "scales of racism" of yours. Racism is bad, period. > This is a thread about a US based company so assuming the historical context of the US matters is fair. I was talking in general terms given that I've encountered this US ideological racist garbage in many places at this point. > Also anti-black racism exists across the world. Not at least where I'm originally from (Africa). I cannot get my head around any of these arguments other than pure and simple indoctrination. As soon as you apply basic common sensical logical reasoning to it, you see how outrageous and ridiculous is.
datavirtue 4y ago
Oh, it's a different kind of racism. Such a relief.
- ParetoOptimal 4y ago
  Not a relief, but that difference means one is a more pressing issue than the other. In the same way someone with chest pains in the ER goes back before someone with non-critical respiratory issues.